jmpmstr Posted March 24, 2020 Share #1 Posted March 24, 2020 Finally got to putting away my containers from SOS. Recalling a good conversation at the show about focusing my Sampsons I took them out and had forgotten about this guy in a separate drawer. Impressed to Stephen J. Ahern, LDS. A little background...New York departed Fort Monroe on 17 January 1898 for Key West. After the declaration of the SpanishAmerican War in April, she steamed to Cuba and bombarded the defenses at Matanzas before joining other American ships at San Juan in May, seeking the Spanish squadron. Not finding them, they bombarded Castillo San Felipe del Morro at San Juan (12 May) before withdrawing. New York then became flagship of Admiral William T. Sampson's squadron, as the American commander planned the campaign against Santiago. However, New York was taking Admiral Sampson to a meeting with Major General William Shafter when the Spanish fleet made its breakout attempt, some of her engines were disconnected which reduced her speed, and she was only able to participate in the closing phases of the battle.The Battle of Santiago de Cuba on 3 July resulted in complete destruction of the Spanish fleet. An interesting, I think, 6 bar phase 3. The aesthetics of Sampsons is appealing to me but the multiple bar phase 3 medals are particularly attractive; maybe the appearance similar to British campaign medals gives a certain regality you them. I invite your opinion, comment and/or thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aerialbridge Posted March 25, 2020 Share #2 Posted March 25, 2020 Nice Sampson. Here's Ahern's pension card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmpmstr Posted March 25, 2020 Author Share #3 Posted March 25, 2020 Thanks very much and for the details, every bit tells more of the story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobgee Posted March 25, 2020 Share #4 Posted March 25, 2020 Wonderful medal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Dentino Posted March 26, 2020 Share #5 Posted March 26, 2020 Wow, A, that is a splendid medal. Love these old Sampson's especially when they are "wearing" a lot of bars. That is a real beauty for sure. Congrats on the pick up and thanks for sharing it here with us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanemono Posted March 26, 2020 Share #6 Posted March 26, 2020 Beautiful medal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmpmstr Posted March 28, 2020 Author Share #7 Posted March 28, 2020 Thank you all for your kind input. These are my favorites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aerialbridge Posted March 28, 2020 Share #8 Posted March 28, 2020 Thank you all for your kind input. These are my favorites Sal, do you prefer Sampsons to Deweys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmpmstr Posted March 28, 2020 Author Share #9 Posted March 28, 2020 Theyre tied but Im narrowing Sampsons to phase 1 and 2 right now then maybe only phase 1 in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aerialbridge Posted March 28, 2020 Share #10 Posted March 28, 2020 Are you selling off your phase 3s or just not looking for more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aerialbridge Posted March 28, 2020 Share #11 Posted March 28, 2020 Theyre tied but Im narrowing Sampsons to phase 1 and 2 right now then maybe only phase 1 in the future. The only USS New York Sampson I have is a Phase 1, all original, in a NY father and son group that I posted here before. I've wondered why he never sent his medal back for Phase III to add all the bars, since he served into the 1920s. He also never changed the original first type gold and red ribbon on the Span Am. to the gold and blue ribbon that replaced it in 1913. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmpmstr Posted March 28, 2020 Author Share #12 Posted March 28, 2020 Yes sadly weve had some tragic events generating high medical bills and done upcoming surgeries so Ill be moving the Phase 3 and possibly the Phase 2 items but I also am trying to narrow the focus, there are just too many to try to capture them all. Trying to stop the hoarding so to speak. Yours is gorgeous, groupings are where I want to move into as well. So if theres a Ph 3 in the group Ill of course keep that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanemono Posted March 29, 2020 Share #13 Posted March 29, 2020 Here is my Sampson group to Lt. Karl Rundquist who served on the USS New York. Here is his GCM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanemono Posted March 29, 2020 Share #14 Posted March 29, 2020 Here is his GCM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermanus Posted March 29, 2020 Share #15 Posted March 29, 2020 Forgive my ignorance, but what is a phase 1, phase 2 and phase 3 Sampson? I'm confident somebody wrote it down in a topic on this site, but somehow I didn't pick it up. Thanks and regards Herman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javelin4life Posted March 29, 2020 Share #16 Posted March 29, 2020 Anthony, Im parroting everyone else when i say that Sampson is a gorgeous piece of history and equally beautifully preserved. My multi-bar Sampson is the exact same construction as yours; Im sure you know this but it looks to be a phase 1 upgraded to phase 3, as per the wire loop catch and the impressed name on the rim. Interestingly enough, your recipient was shipmates with the recipient of mine, a machinist on the New Yorker as well. Thank you for sharing! Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerradtgrant Posted March 29, 2020 Share #17 Posted March 29, 2020 Forgive my ignorance, but what is a phase 1, phase 2 and phase 3 Sampson? I'm confident somebody wrote it down in a topic on this site, but somehow I didn't pick it up. Thanks and regards Herman +1 Sent from my Moto Z (2) using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmpmstr Posted March 29, 2020 Author Share #18 Posted March 29, 2020 Dick Always a treat to see your wares, like a pop up museum. Thank you for adding to this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aerialbridge Posted March 29, 2020 Share #19 Posted March 29, 2020 The USS New York, flagship of RADM Sampson's North Atlantic Squadron, informal appreciation thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aerialbridge Posted March 29, 2020 Share #20 Posted March 29, 2020 ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aerialbridge Posted March 29, 2020 Share #21 Posted March 29, 2020 This USS New York Good Conduct is dated about 8 months after Dick's posted above, and is definitely a different layout and I believe a different hand. Rundquist and Rosloof most certainly knew each other, being shipmates and fellow New Yorkers. Note that Dick's Good Conduct engraving has an interesting facet, it seems to say "New Yory" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aerialbridge Posted March 29, 2020 Share #22 Posted March 29, 2020 Chief Gunner's Mate John Rosloof's son SGT James Rosloof, 7th IR, 3rd ID, KIA in the Anzio Breakout on 23 May 1944. They shared an April 6 birthday, 52 years apart. John died the year after his son, 29 December 1945. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim T Posted March 30, 2020 Share #23 Posted March 30, 2020 Hermanus & Gerradtgrant: Originally, the Sampson Medal was issued to a limited number of ships who participated in a limited amount of actions from May to August 1898; the basic engagement was indicated on the back of the medal. They were generally simple medals with a top ship bar however some had extra bars, indicating multiple actions, hung by links from the ship's bar. Those are what are now called the "Phase I" medals because other ships which were in the area subsequently asked that their service be recognized. From that request the list of ships (and actions) was expanded; those are now known as "Phase II" issues. A third round occurred when Phase I awardees asked that those actions of Phase II be recognized. That request resulted in the addition of the extra bars and those are what is currently called "Phase III" Sampsons. . Jim T. ....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanemono Posted March 30, 2020 Share #24 Posted March 30, 2020 Here is a Sampson group to Jenner Fast USS Yankee. I have no idea what Phase this medal would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerradtgrant Posted March 30, 2020 Share #25 Posted March 30, 2020 Hermanus & Gerradtgrant: Originally, the Sampson Medal was issued to a limited number of ships who participated in a limited amount of actions from May to August 1898; the basic engagement was indicated on the back of the medal. They were generally simple medals with a top ship bar however some had extra bars, indicating multiple actions, hung by links from the ship's bar. Those are what are now called the "Phase I" medals because other ships which were in the area subsequently asked that their service be recognized. From that request the list of ships (and actions) was expanded; those are now known as "Phase II" issues. A third round occurred when Phase I awardees asked that those actions of Phase II be recognized. That request resulted in the addition of the extra bars and those are what is currently called "Phase III" Sampsons. . Jim T. ....... Thank you for that clear explanation. Makes more sense now. Sent from my Moto Z (2) using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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