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Recent pickup. Has this maker been identified? It is not on the comprehensive list I posted a while back. Also, the stamp on the spoon is barely readable. Can anybody see what I can't? All help is much appreciated.

 

Thanks, Al

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Can you unscrew the fuze? From what I can see, I suspect it is an M6 series fuze used when we went to TNT filled grenades. All M6's I have seen are inked, not engraved. To confirm, we have to see the remains of the fuze train, if a late war TNT filled grenade, it should have reddish sealant ( instead of greenish as used in the M10 series) and will be shorter than an M10. M6 TNT fuzes are much harder to find than the common M10 fuze as they had a short, small production run and from memory came out in late 44. Post war grenade fuzes went to a different M number.

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Can you unscrew the fuze? From what I can see, I suspect it is an M6 series fuze used when we went to TNT filled grenades. All M6's I have seen are inked, not engraved. To confirm, we have to see the remains of the fuze train, if a late war TNT filled grenade, it should have reddish sealant ( instead of greenish as used in the M10 series) and will be shorter than an M10. M6 TNT fuzes are much harder to find than the common M10 fuze as they had a short, small production run and from memory came out in late 44. Post war grenade fuzes went to a different M number.

 

Thank you 917601 for the response. I have attached a picture of the subject fuze (on the right) next to a fuze taken from an earlier M10 series fuze. It is noticably shorter and there are some very small frgments of the reddish sealant, with green sealant on the M10. Thanks also for the fact that the M6 series spoons are ink marked and not engraved. Looking closely now at the spoon on the subject fuze, I can now make out M6A4.

 

Thanks again for your help.

 

Al

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BTT

 

Recent posting for WW2 MKII makers on another thread showed AA to be the Canadian firm of Alcan Aluminum. Did Canada make MKII bodies for the US? Or are we still looking?

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Dirt Detective

 

Thanks also for the fact that the M6 series spoons are ink marked and not engraved.

 

Al

 

Hi Al,

Not all M6 spoons are inked..some are engraved...such as this M6A2 spoon

 

Mike

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Hi Al,

Not all M6 spoons are inked..some are engraved...such as this M6A2 spoon

 

Mike

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Good to know! Thanks for the info and the pictures Mike.

 

Any idea about the MKII body maker AA?

 

Thanks again, Al

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Hi Al,

Not all M6 spoons are inked..some are engraved...such as this M6A2 spoon

 

Mike

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I need to clarify. All FRAG TNT M6A4C ( C denotes curved Spoon) I have seen are inked. They were in production a very short time. You picture a smoke, ( M6A2) , entirely different fuze and spoon, not the detonator type required for a TNT filled later war grenade.

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I need to clarify. All FRAG TNT M6A4C ( C denotes curved Spoon) I have seen are inked. They were in production a very short time. You picture a smoke, ( M6A2) , entirely different fuze and spoon, not the detonator type required for a TNT filled later war grenade.

 

Good info on the "C" for the curved spoons. The M6A2 spoon and fuze I posted are the remains of the top of a MK IIIA1 which is a offensive hand grenade filled with TNT, here is a pic of the bottom. Isnt the smoke rounds fitted with the M200 series fuzes?

 

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You picture a smoke, ( M6A2) , entirely different fuze and spoon, not the detonator type required for a TNT filled later war grenade.

 

The WWII smoke rounds used a M200A1 , much different than the M6 or M1 series fuzes. The big difference is the fuze train and the rear of the M200 is round and a bit longer. M200A1 smoke fuze on right

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Hi Hirsca,

Are the ends of your M6A4 spoon beveled like this minty inked M6A4C spoon in the pic? Like 917601 also said, I have not seen an engraved M6A4 spoon.

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Yes, the M200 A1/2 have been used since WW2 for smoke grenades only. The M6 A2 was for the offensive grenade , the M6A4C for TNT filled frags. As usuall, my typing in replies are not always clear. I probably introduced some confusion when talking about inked only on the M6A4C. I have never seen an M6A4C fuzed TNT Frag spoon that was engraved. Presumably because of its very short service. I keep saying this because some spoons are found with no engraving, and no ink marks, I believe those had ink removed , no longer visible or re-painted. They are not repros, but original.

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As usuall, my typing in replies are not always clear.

 

I agree...it can be tough to paint a clear picture somtimes with what we are thinking, but you were clear in post #7 you said the M6A2 I posted in post # 5 was for a smoke round... that's why I corrected it.

 

 

My whole reason for posting that M6A2 pic was when Hirsca said ( " Thanks also for the fact that the M6 SERIES spoons are ink marked and not engraved.")

I was thinking he was talking about ALL M6 spoons.. as the A2 and the A3 are engraved and just wanted to make that clear to him.

 

No harm no foul..talking WWII grenades in fun.. :)

 

Rgds, Mike

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Hi Hirsca,

Are the ends of your M6A4 spoon beveled like this minty inked M6A4C spoon in the pic? Like 917601 also said, I have not seen an engraved M6A4 spoon.

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Yes, the end of the spoon is beveled. Beautiful mint spoon you have. And thanks to you and 917601 for the ongoing discussion. I've learned a lot.

 

Now, to my original question. Who made the AA marked bodies?

 

Many thanks, Al

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