MWalsh Posted January 22, 2021 Share #26 Posted January 22, 2021 That and the flood of FOIA requests on 1911A1 pistols people got from CMP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWalsh Posted January 22, 2021 Share #27 Posted January 22, 2021 On 1/20/2021 at 5:59 PM, Kansas Raider said: A friend of mine bought one 2 weeks ago in KC at a shop, paid $900. I told him if he finds another for the same price get it for me Lucky friend... some of these are going for 2K these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfields Posted January 23, 2021 Author Share #28 Posted January 23, 2021 Yeah I received an email reply on Jan 4 this year saying that it might be several more months before the "second level review" is completed. I have no idea what that means other than I shall wait for several more months and see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfields Posted February 28, 2021 Author Share #29 Posted February 28, 2021 Received a reply back this past week on my FOIA request! My pistol was issued to Company B 5th Battalion 101st Aviation Regiment ! Pretty cool! Kim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nkomo Posted March 1, 2021 Share #30 Posted March 1, 2021 5 hours ago, kfields said: Received a reply back this past week on my FOIA request! My pistol was issued to Company B 5th Battalion 101st Aviation Regiment ! Pretty cool! Kim I got mine back as well this past week. Mine was issued to 1st Bn, 502nd Infantry between December 2017 and March 2019. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mohawkALSE Posted March 1, 2021 Share #31 Posted March 1, 2021 6 hours ago, kfields said: Received a reply back this past week on my FOIA request! My pistol was issued to Company B 5th Battalion 101st Aviation Regiment ! Pretty cool! Kim The Lancers! I love the Aviation background with it since my father was a 101st Aviator. Also know guys who flew with Bravo Co back in their Huey days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfields Posted March 1, 2021 Author Share #32 Posted March 1, 2021 6 hours ago, Nkomo said: I got mine back as well this past week. Mine was issued to 1st Bn, 502nd Infantry between December 2017 and March 2019. Congratulations on receiving a letter showing it went to a combat unit! Mine was with the 101st for a similar amount of time, Dec 2017-May 2019. It sure is icing on the cake to have an archival type letter for an issued Army pistol that shows probable service in Afghanistan! Kim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfields Posted March 1, 2021 Author Share #33 Posted March 1, 2021 5 hours ago, mohawkALSE said: The Lancers! I love the Aviation background with it since my father was a 101st Aviator. Also know guys who flew with Bravo Co back in their Huey days. Yes I love that connection too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubgunFun Posted March 1, 2021 Share #34 Posted March 1, 2021 These are just too cool. I didn't even know about them being released to the public. US property marked items are something special. An like-for-like commemorative or civilian version just doesn't have the cool factor. That you can do a FOIA act on these and get some real info is awesome! I had a Reising Model 50 and the FOIA request provided me a lot of documents but they were all blanked out except for my serial number. That FOIA request was almost not worth the time. Thanks for sharing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLegRob Posted January 6, 2022 Share #35 Posted January 6, 2022 FWIW- Took delivery of my M17 Surplus on 11/28/21. Submitted FOIA request on 12/2. FOIA submission acknowledged via e-mail 12/7. Final FOIA response / letter (on Department of the Army Letterhead) received 12/15 via e-mail. My weapon served with HHC / 2nd BN, 502nd Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne Division. Happy to answer anybody's questions on the process (Below is the exact verbiage I used in my request & that provided in the reply). ------ WHAT I ASKED FOR: ------ Sir / Ma’am, Under provisions of the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA), I would like to formally request any / all information and corresponding documents related to the U.S. Army’s reception, issuance, maintenance history, deployment, custody and turn-in / disposition of Sig Sauer M17 pistol Serial Number TF0014##. The specific questions I would like answered regarding M17 pistol SN TF0014## are: 1) What date does M17 pistol SN TF0014## first appear in the Army File of the Department of Defense (DoD) Small Arms / Light Weapons Registry for an M17 9mm Semiautomatic pistol? (NSN: 1005-01-661-7317) 2) When was M17 pistol SN TF0014## shipped from Sig Sauer Inc., Newington, New Hampshire? 3) When was M17 pistol SN TF0014## received by Defense Logistics Agency (DLA) Distribution Anniston, in Anniston, Alabama? 4) When was M17 pistol SN TF0014## shipped from DLA Anniston? 5) What unit / installation was M17 pistol SN TF0014## shipped to? 6) When did M17 pistol SN TF0014## arrive at the unit / installation? 7) What unit received M17 pistol SN TF0014## and when? 8) Was M17 pistol SN TF0014## ever entered into any maintenance program? 9) Did M17 pistol SN TF0014## ever leave the Continental United States (CONUS)? 10) Is M17 pistol SN TF0014## listed on any deployment / shipping or transportation control manifests? The specific documentation I would like to receive for M17 pistol SN TF0014## include: 1) Receiving documents from DLA Anniston listing M17 pistol SN TF0014##. 2) Shipping documents from DLA Anniston listing M17 pistol SN TF0014##. 3) Receiving documents listing M17 pistol SN TF0014## from the unit / installation having received the weapon. 4) Unit Property Books listing M17 pistol SN TF0014##. 5) Unit Sub-Hand Receipt documents listing M17 pistol SN TF0014##. 6) Any additional property transfer documents listing M17 pistol SN TF0014##. 7) Any maintenance documents listing M17 pistol SN TF0014##. 8) Any transportation / deployment / shipping control manifests listing M17 pistol SN TF0014##. 9) Turn-in documents listing M17 pistol SN TF0014##. Thank you very much for your time and assistance on this matter. ------ WHAT I GOT: ------ This letter is in response to your Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request dated December 2, 2021 reference number AMC FOIA # FP-22-005853/FA-22-0442. The request is for ownership history on a Sig Sauer M17 Pistol, NSN: 1005-01-661-7317, serial number TF0014##. The following Information was found in the Department of Defense (DoD) Small Arms/Light Weapons Registry for a M17, 9mm Semiautomatic Pistol, NSN: 1005-01- 661-7317, Serial Number: TF0014##. The records for this weapon are listed below in chronological order: 1. October 30, 2017 – The weapon manufacture Sig Sauer Inc. - Newington, New Hampshire shipped the weapon to the Army General Supply LMP Stock Records Center Receiving Point - Anniston, Alabama. 2. November 09, 2017 – The Defense Logistics Agency (DLA) Distribution - Anniston, Alabama received the weapon from Weapon manufacture Sig Sauer Inc. - Newington, New Hampshire. 3. November 16, 2017 – The DLA Distribution - Anniston, Alabama shipped the weapon to the Logistics Readiness Center - Fort Campbell, Kentucky. 4. December 17, 2017 – The Headquarters and Headquarters Company, 2nd Battalion, 502nd Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne Division (Air Assault) - Fort Campbell, Kentucky received the weapon from the Logistics Readiness Center - Fort Campbell, Kentucky. 5. March 26, 2019 – The Headquarters and Headquarters Company, 2nd Battalion, 502nd Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne Division (Air Assault) - Fort Campbell, Kentucky turned in the weapon to the Logistics Readiness Center - Fort Campbell, Kentucky. 6. April 09, 2019 – The DLA Distribution - Anniston, Alabama received the weapon from the Logistics Readiness Center - Fort Campbell, Kentucky. 7. April 09, 2019 – The DLA Distribution - Anniston, Alabama shipped the weapon outside the DoD to the weapon manufacture Sig Sauer Inc. - Newington, New Hampshire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mohawkALSE Posted January 14, 2022 Share #36 Posted January 14, 2022 Thats pretty cool to find out all that info about it. I kinda wish I was able to have picked one of those up, I'm enjoy the civilian P320/M-17 I bought, nice pistols. If you didn't already, you should pick up one of the Safariland Modular Handgun Holster sets they made for them. Can mount them on a belt, MOLLE rig or the thigh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLegRob Posted August 6, 2022 Share #37 Posted August 6, 2022 Anyone else been able to locate legit USGI accessories to accommodate those Surplus M17s in your collection? Been able to find USGI 21rd & 17rd mags NIW (pics below ~ both appear to be SIG-produced ~ CAGE 6ZWB1), and the holster set, but that’s about it… Would LOVE to acquire a legit USGI TM (Hard Copy, not digital / print). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfields Posted August 8, 2022 Author Share #38 Posted August 8, 2022 On 8/6/2022 at 11:13 AM, RedLegRob said: Anyone else been able to locate legit USGI accessories to accommodate those Surplus M17s in your collection? Been able to find USGI 21rd & 17rd mags NIW (pics below ~ both appear to be SIG-produced ~ CAGE 6ZWB1), and the holster set, but that’s about it… Would LOVE to acquire a legit USGI TM (Hard Copy, not digital / print). When I read your post, I figured how hard can it be to find a hard copy of the TM ? Well I looked and couldn't find any either! Guess I'm on the hunt for one of those now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mohawkALSE Posted August 8, 2022 Share #39 Posted August 8, 2022 Agree, would love to find a printed copy of the current TM, both -10 and I think the Mx is -23P but not 100 percent on that. I know I have the digital versions from when they first came out. Printed TMs are started to be a thing of the past, especially with the USAF it seems. Everything is going digital for the most past. I love having both printed and ETMs. I have 3 21rnd, 3 17rnd, 3 10rnd and 1 30rnd factory Sig mags for the 320/M17 but I might have to find some of these Mil Contract ones just for collecting sake. Can you read the bodies of those to see if they are the ones made in USA or Italy? Factory Sig mags are made in both places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLegRob Posted August 8, 2022 Share #40 Posted August 8, 2022 Both say “Made in Italy” (pics below) Other than the unique USGI packaging, I don’t THINK there’s a way to tell these apart from normal civilian mags (hence the importance of NIW USGI mags for collectors who’ve picked up a surplus M17). Anyone got any better intel on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfields Posted January 8, 2023 Author Share #41 Posted January 8, 2023 So has anyone been able to find original government printed manuals for these pistols? I'd love to grab one of those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Usmc2004 Posted January 8, 2023 Share #42 Posted January 8, 2023 TM 9-1005-470-10. I think being a currently used government publication you may have to have someone on active or reserve duty loose one for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mohawkALSE Posted January 8, 2023 Share #43 Posted January 8, 2023 4 hours ago, kfields said: So has anyone been able to find original government printed manuals for these pistols? I'd love to grab one of those. I haven't found an actual printed on yet, just the digital version someone posted on a forum, and it wasn't the current edition either. Ive been hoping to find a printed myself but haven't seen anything pop up yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfields Posted January 8, 2023 Author Share #44 Posted January 8, 2023 Yeah, I'll keep looking too. I gotta believe the government did print these off. I was just curious if anyone had seen any yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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