27Division18 Posted January 4, 2020 Share #1 Posted January 4, 2020 Is this ammo for the ,03 Springfield or the M1 Garand, or another rifle? Link to post Share on other sites
doyler Posted January 4, 2020 Share #2 Posted January 4, 2020 Head stamp appears for Franford Arsenal 1923.....30 cal In Memoriam:Lieutenant J.Kostelec 1-3 First Special Service Force MIA/PD 4 March 1944 ItalyI HAVE SEEN THE ENEMY AND IT IS DAYLIGHTForget about the tips..We'll get hell to pay (AC/DC)"If you cant get out and run with the big dogs then sit on the porch and bark at the cars going by.." Have you Hugged a Clown Today? You Cant Get A Sun Tan On The Moon.. Link to post Share on other sites
doyler Posted January 4, 2020 Share #3 Posted January 4, 2020 Stripper is the standard 5 round brass for the 1903 model rifle In Memoriam:Lieutenant J.Kostelec 1-3 First Special Service Force MIA/PD 4 March 1944 ItalyI HAVE SEEN THE ENEMY AND IT IS DAYLIGHTForget about the tips..We'll get hell to pay (AC/DC)"If you cant get out and run with the big dogs then sit on the porch and bark at the cars going by.." Have you Hugged a Clown Today? You Cant Get A Sun Tan On The Moon.. Link to post Share on other sites
27Division18 Posted January 4, 2020 Author Share #4 Posted January 4, 2020 Thank you very much Stripper is the standard 5 round brass for the 1903 model rifle Link to post Share on other sites
m1ashooter Posted January 4, 2020 Share #5 Posted January 4, 2020 BAR's used stripper clips also. GOD Bless Texas And All That Serve Her Link to post Share on other sites
M1Garandy Posted January 4, 2020 Share #6 Posted January 4, 2020 The M1917 used stripper clips as well. The Garand didn't exist in 1923, but it would chamber and fire those cartridges just fine as well, just not from that stripper clip. As would any of the .30 MG's (when in belts of links) and the Johnson rifle, etc. Link to post Share on other sites
doyler Posted January 4, 2020 Share #7 Posted January 4, 2020 I have 1938 dated ammo in the bandoleers still in brass strippers.There are steel ones as well.There are variations show in the Springfield book and compatible to all of the rifles. In Memoriam:Lieutenant J.Kostelec 1-3 First Special Service Force MIA/PD 4 March 1944 ItalyI HAVE SEEN THE ENEMY AND IT IS DAYLIGHTForget about the tips..We'll get hell to pay (AC/DC)"If you cant get out and run with the big dogs then sit on the porch and bark at the cars going by.." Have you Hugged a Clown Today? You Cant Get A Sun Tan On The Moon.. Link to post Share on other sites
USARV72 Posted January 4, 2020 Share #8 Posted January 4, 2020 They are M-1 ball, nice find and in good shape. "The true Soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him" G.K. Chesterton"A people that values it's privileges above its principles will soon lose both" D.D. Eisenhower Link to post Share on other sites
917601 Posted January 4, 2020 Share #9 Posted January 4, 2020 They are M-1 ball, nice find and in good shape.Good catch. Most do not realize WW2 .30 M2 ball ammo's predecessor was M1 ball. Heavier projectile, longer range. In 1938 the US went back to 150 grain M2 ball ammo. M1 ball uncommon to find. As for brass strippers, they were specified till shortages of copper were encountered into WW2 and we went to steel. Marine snipers in WW2 preferred heavier M1 ball ammo and had stocked up huge supplies prior to the switch to M2 ball ammo. Link to post Share on other sites
917601 Posted January 4, 2020 Share #10 Posted January 4, 2020 A quick check on another noted cartridge website states indeed the M1 .30 round was sniper preferred but also used in Navy and Army aircraft .30 cal MG's. FA Arsenal discontinued production of M1 ammo in October 1941. Link to post Share on other sites
917601 Posted January 4, 2020 Share #11 Posted January 4, 2020 More on the M1.30 Ball. They were issued to Navy aircraft using .30 MGs. From the IAA website " One thing to look out for from this period is ball rounds with a silver tip, headstamped F A 41. These were an M1 Ball contract for the U.S. Navy and were given a silver tip to distinguish them from the M2 ball rounds which were in service by then. The lot number was 2160 and you can sometimes find sealed boxes of these where the seller is unaware of their silver tip. Ball rounds with silver tips headstamped F A 41 are often sold as Armor-piercing Incendiary (API) rounds but the silver tip ID for API rounds didn't appear until 1943." Link to post Share on other sites
doyler Posted January 6, 2020 Share #12 Posted January 6, 2020 Have a box or two of this Match ammo. In Memoriam:Lieutenant J.Kostelec 1-3 First Special Service Force MIA/PD 4 March 1944 ItalyI HAVE SEEN THE ENEMY AND IT IS DAYLIGHTForget about the tips..We'll get hell to pay (AC/DC)"If you cant get out and run with the big dogs then sit on the porch and bark at the cars going by.." Have you Hugged a Clown Today? You Cant Get A Sun Tan On The Moon.. Link to post Share on other sites
917601 Posted January 6, 2020 Share #13 Posted January 6, 2020 Have a box or two of this Match ammo. 2020_0105RAIDERUSMC0001.JPG Very nice box of M1 Match ammo, cartridge collectors are drooling. Frankford Arsenal munitions are hard to find and that manufacturer has a fascinating history. Link to post Share on other sites
doyler Posted January 7, 2020 Share #14 Posted January 7, 2020 Very nice box of M1 Match ammo, cartridge collectors are drooling. Frankford Arsenal munitions are hard to find and that manufacturer has a fascinating history. Thanks for the information.May have to unbag it as it has a plastic bag to protect the box. In Memoriam:Lieutenant J.Kostelec 1-3 First Special Service Force MIA/PD 4 March 1944 ItalyI HAVE SEEN THE ENEMY AND IT IS DAYLIGHTForget about the tips..We'll get hell to pay (AC/DC)"If you cant get out and run with the big dogs then sit on the porch and bark at the cars going by.." Have you Hugged a Clown Today? You Cant Get A Sun Tan On The Moon.. Link to post Share on other sites
USARV72 Posted January 7, 2020 Share #15 Posted January 7, 2020 Ron, come on down, we can go shooting as no snow, clear skies and in 60’s, lol. "The true Soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him" G.K. Chesterton"A people that values it's privileges above its principles will soon lose both" D.D. Eisenhower Link to post Share on other sites
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