jeeplover Posted December 24, 2019 Share #1 Posted December 24, 2019 picked this up this summer. i think it is real based on the the paint loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeeplover Posted December 24, 2019 Author Share #2 Posted December 24, 2019 more pictures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeeplover Posted December 24, 2019 Author Share #3 Posted December 24, 2019 the last Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
644td Posted December 24, 2019 Share #4 Posted December 24, 2019 I would like to see outdoor pictures of the helmet and close up pictures of the J hook and buckle. Marty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeeplover Posted December 24, 2019 Author Share #5 Posted December 24, 2019 i will get some outside pictures when i can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchangelDM Posted December 24, 2019 Share #6 Posted December 24, 2019 Hi Your probably not going to like my answer but based on these pics I will give you my 2 cents, and I stress purely based off of the low rez pics. The left side swivel bail has been re attached recently as can clearly be seen by the heat marks on the shell where its been spot welded, Ive highlighted this in my picture. The J hook looks to be reproduction and the chinstraps look NOS if indeed original. Both may be NOS (new old stock) but have been added at a later time. With regards to the paint it just looks too new, if I was to take a guess its an old helmet that was missing a bail, the seller re attached the bail and put some new chinstraps on and painted it. There is old rust on the top I can see that clearly shows this lid being painted on top of the rust. It does not show consistent wear or age, and is still very bright for 80 years. The pattern is consistent with camouflage in the PTO and for me if this even saw a day in service the paint would be dulled more and show at least some scrapes or slight paint loss from going into his sea bag and then storage Hope this helps - Dean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchangelDM Posted December 24, 2019 Share #7 Posted December 24, 2019 Picture of the weld spots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king802 Posted December 24, 2019 Share #8 Posted December 24, 2019 Sadly I think this was probably an old shell that’s been touched up. The chinstraps look to be repro and don’t have the correct bar tacking. The thread used is the wrong colour. The replaced loop looks to be fixed while the other is swivel. This gas detecting paint is still available and with age goes a deeper mustard colour. I wouldn’t fret about it too much if the helmet was cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeeplover Posted December 24, 2019 Author Share #9 Posted December 24, 2019 it is not as bright as it looks. the chin strap i can not comment on. think about it the replaced bail kind of makes me think even more paint is real why paint it then put bail on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king802 Posted December 24, 2019 Share #10 Posted December 24, 2019 Compare the paint on your example to this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burning Hazard Posted December 24, 2019 Share #11 Posted December 24, 2019 Not a fan of this one either. Chinstraps are reproductions; the hook side chinstrap is way too long. The paint scheme looks too fresh; you can still buy sealed, original WWII gas detection paint cans and paint your helmets as one notorious forum member had not long ago. If you can return this one then do it. Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king802 Posted December 24, 2019 Share #12 Posted December 24, 2019 I can see now it’s actually the swivel loop that’s been replaced. Field repairs were usually crudely done by brazing the loop back on. Take some clearer pictures of the chinstraps and bar tacking, clearer pictures will help. No doubt the vesicant paint is original but it does look fairly new. Better pictures of the repair and chinstraps may give you a better opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeeplover Posted December 24, 2019 Author Share #13 Posted December 24, 2019 ok went outside for you guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jeeplover Posted December 24, 2019 Author Share #16 Posted December 24, 2019 ok here are more pictures. as i said before i think helmet is good chinstraps are likely nos or repop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeeplover Posted December 24, 2019 Author Share #17 Posted December 24, 2019 lets figure this out guy we are here to learn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted December 24, 2019 Share #18 Posted December 24, 2019 The chinstraps are reproduction for sure. The swivel hinge looks reweled but the size looks correct. It might be the original hinge. I can't comment on the paint as the photos don't reveal enough details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchangelDM Posted December 24, 2019 Share #19 Posted December 24, 2019 What did you pay for it may I ask Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeeplover Posted December 24, 2019 Author Share #20 Posted December 24, 2019 $75 from a estate sale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchangelDM Posted December 24, 2019 Share #21 Posted December 24, 2019 $75 from a estate sale Thankyou Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOLO Posted December 25, 2019 Share #22 Posted December 25, 2019 looks like a reenactor's helmet, people have been fabricating repros for many years, the paint loss is probably from the previous owner , it doesnt take much to give it a used look simply tossing it around , scuffing by rubbing on the ground, leaving it outdoors upside down on wet ground for long periods to age it, the poorly attached repro straps are a sure sign a reenactor used it. plus the fresh looking camo paint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeeplover Posted December 25, 2019 Author Share #23 Posted December 25, 2019 found a book painted steel by chris arnold page 210 same wear same colora Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wake1941 Posted December 25, 2019 Share #24 Posted December 25, 2019 Sorry its no good, multiple people have voiced their concerns with the helmet. Straps are wrong, paint is not old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickman983 Posted December 25, 2019 Share #25 Posted December 25, 2019 I'm thinking it's a reenactor helmet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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