Phantomf4 Posted December 10, 2019 Need some help, I can't find out nothing about these, This is some kind of enemy plane gunnery globe, i have six of these, the planes are mounted on a rod and go inside of the globe, there are colors on the globe that coincide with the guns on the plane. The planes are lead on steel rods and have the type and date under the wings, they are dated 1/43. The Globes are plastic and not marked. They also have a info disc that goes on them I have no idea what these are called or what there used for. Google turned up nothing. Could use some help. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phantomf4 Posted December 10, 2019 Notice they have colored dots on the plane where the guns are located. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brig Posted December 10, 2019 Hmmmm...... -BrigGySgt/USMC/0369RSU-Quantico"FOR OUR TOMORROWS, THEY GAVE THEIR TODAYS"RIPSgt Jesse 'Jeff Nasty' BalthaserSgt John P HulingCpl Carlos 'Gilo Monster' GilorozcoCpl Stephen C 'Socks' SockaloskyLCpl Joshua A 'Scottie' ScottLCpl Jason Lee 'Birdman' FryeLCpl Nicolas B MorrisonLCpl Jon T HicksLCpl Osbrany 'Oz' Montes De OcaPvt Lewis T D Calapini'The SOI 5' Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phantomf4 Posted December 10, 2019 That was Globe's, not Death stars!!! LOL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve B. Posted December 10, 2019 These show the areas where the guns can be brought to bear, and areas where an attacking aircraft would be safe from defensive gunfire because of the location of the guns in relation to wings, engines, etc. Collecting 3rd Armored Division items of all kinds from all eras, specializing in the 36th Armored Infantry Regiment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phantomf4 Posted December 10, 2019 i agree, wonder what the official name is?, Who made them?, is there instruction's on them, pictures of them using them etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeffro Posted December 11, 2019 I don't know anything about these, but it would make sense to me that the colors on the globe indicate the best ways to attack the enemy aircraft (e.g. That red or orange area seams to line up with a frontal attack and in direct firing area of the Junkers' guns). Is there a bottom half of that red or orange circle that maybe needs to line up with the top half? Also wondering if the 1/43 is a scale size? Jeffro Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
QED4 Posted December 11, 2019 1/43 is not the scale, scale is usually written 1:43 and 1:72 is a common model scale and that would be much larger than the one pictured. That one is probably 1:150 or something like that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flightpath Posted December 11, 2019 1/43 Might be a date? Growing up in Australia we can write a scale as 1/72.... look on Airfix plastic model kits... I think they are really interesting and would have one in my collection if one is available. Interested in US Naval and Marine aviation history, aircrew wings & insignia. WW2 US Navy and Marine Grumman Wildcat, Avenger & Douglas SBD aircraft. Also interested in US 5th AF in Australia. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phantomf4 Posted December 11, 2019 1/43 is the date, they are around 1/144 scale. I’m not sure if I have the right halves together on this one. I’ll put another one together and post it later. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeffro Posted December 12, 2019 Yep, I guess the plane would be pretty big if it were 1/43 scale. Probably is a date. Jeffro Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phantomf4 Posted December 12, 2019 Had a chance to match one of these up better, this is the DO-217 one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phantomf4 Posted December 12, 2019 Has coinciding colored dots with the colored shades on the globe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brig Posted December 14, 2019 I'd be interested in seeing the manual to know how exactly these worked -BrigGySgt/USMC/0369RSU-Quantico"FOR OUR TOMORROWS, THEY GAVE THEIR TODAYS"RIPSgt Jesse 'Jeff Nasty' BalthaserSgt John P HulingCpl Carlos 'Gilo Monster' GilorozcoCpl Stephen C 'Socks' SockaloskyLCpl Joshua A 'Scottie' ScottLCpl Jason Lee 'Birdman' FryeLCpl Nicolas B MorrisonLCpl Jon T HicksLCpl Osbrany 'Oz' Montes De OcaPvt Lewis T D Calapini'The SOI 5' Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flightpath Posted December 14, 2019 Yes, the instructions would be good (to complete it too), it would probably show that sighting the enemy aircraft through the clear sections shows the least defended part of the aircraft and therefore the safest direction of attack. Never seen one before... really nice. Interested in US Naval and Marine aviation history, aircrew wings & insignia. WW2 US Navy and Marine Grumman Wildcat, Avenger & Douglas SBD aircraft. Also interested in US 5th AF in Australia. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BEAST Posted December 14, 2019 Thats a cool training device. I would reach out to the curator of the National Museum of the Air Force for help. His email address should be on their website. " We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm. " View my website honoring the men and women of Indiana: http://indianavets.wix.com/indiana-at-war and follow my updates on Facebook! https://www.facebook.com/IndianaModernAgeofWar/ Interested in US uniforms? Join the Association of American Military Uniform Collectors! http://aamuc.org/or find us on Facebook! facebook.com/AAMUC.ORG Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phantomf4 Posted December 14, 2019 Yeah I was thinking Air Force museum and maybe the National Air and Space museum. I figured these where probably made by Comet or Framburg since they are die cast planes. You can barely make out the name of the plane on the bottom of the fuselage that looks a lot like What Comet made. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turmanator Posted December 15, 2019 Out of the six you have are they all different planes or are there dupes? David Turman Semper Fi ! "Not as Lean, not as Mean, but still a Marine!" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phantomf4 Posted December 15, 2019 There is 1 Do217, 1 JU86K, 1 Nakajima torpedo bomber, and 3 JU-88's. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phantomf4 Posted January 11 Nobody figured out what these are? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phantomf4 Posted February 4 Found another one today, the guy i got the others from let me root around in one of his sheds, this one is a FW-200 Condor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
