No Quarter Posted November 27, 2019 Share #1 Posted November 27, 2019 Picked this patch up today because of the 2 tone colors. Was this possibly used by the 82nd when they were testing out the UCP Delta pattern? Any thoughts? Jacob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Quarter Posted November 27, 2019 Author Share #2 Posted November 27, 2019 My bad. Posted them out of order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Quarter Posted November 27, 2019 Author Share #3 Posted November 27, 2019 It is hard to tell in the picture, but the border is grey while the rest is tan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vzemke Posted November 27, 2019 Share #4 Posted November 27, 2019 To be honest this looks like its just a faded ACU pattern patch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillock Posted November 28, 2019 Share #5 Posted November 28, 2019 This ISAF patch is the only one that comes close to UCP Delta pattern, that I have and didn't know at the time. It was only comparing to other ACU ISAF brassards that I noticed the difference. Note the coloring at first I thought some one had smeared rust over it!!! I do not know if there were UCP Delta pattern patches authorized as this was an experimental camo pattern that was made for testing and used by some units in combat. Phill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skysoldier80 Posted November 28, 2019 Share #6 Posted November 28, 2019 It is the current multi cam used patch; ocp Whatever the heck it is called Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skysoldier80 Posted November 28, 2019 Share #7 Posted November 28, 2019 The ISAF patch is acu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillock Posted November 28, 2019 Share #8 Posted November 28, 2019 It could be ACU. Here is a side by side comparison with actual ACU brassard. Phill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PATCHRAT Posted November 28, 2019 Share #9 Posted November 28, 2019 The 82nd patch that started this looks like a faded / washed out ACU SSI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Quarter Posted November 29, 2019 Author Share #10 Posted November 29, 2019 Thanks for your input guys. Jacob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Quarter Posted November 29, 2019 Author Share #11 Posted November 29, 2019 I compared this patch to my other 82nd patches and I don't think this is a faded one. The grey thread on the patch in question is still rich in color, same goes for the second color. Maybe it's a one off patch made by a servicemember for some reason. Take a look at these closer photos. Jacob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Longbranch Posted November 29, 2019 Share #14 Posted November 29, 2019 This is just a manufacturing variation. You can pick up 10 used UCP gray patches all to the same unit, and most will show varying shades of gray and different levels of fading/wear. I have a stack of 5 or 6 1st ID patches, and even with that fairly simple design, all of the patches are noticeably different. The used ISAF patch above is not a UCP-Delta example. It is simply well used/soiled. Standard ACU and FRACU uniforms heavily used during OEF/OIF exhibit the exact same kind of wear/discoloration. UCP-Delta was an extremely limited issue, short-lived uniform. Even the US military didnt bother going out of their way to make special insignia for it. Lastly, the UCP pattern is no longer, for most practical purposes, a current camouflage pattern of the US military. The pattern was retired from general use back in October. Its all OCP now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillock Posted November 29, 2019 Share #15 Posted November 29, 2019 Thanks for clarifying Longbranch. I could not think why they would produce UCP Delta insignia for an experiential uniform albeit used by some some elements in combat for testing purposes, when standard ACU would of sufficed. That sounds common sense that it's well worn which had created that odd ball rustic discoloration look. Below is another well faded and used odd coloured 36th Engineer Bde. cheers Phill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Quarter Posted November 29, 2019 Author Share #16 Posted November 29, 2019 This is just a manufacturing variation. You can pick up 10 used UCP gray patches all to the same unit, and most will show varying shades of gray and different levels of fading/wear. I have a stack of 5 or 6 1st ID patches, and even with that fairly simple design, all of the patches are noticeably different. The used ISAF patch above is not a UCP-Delta example. It is simply well used/soiled. Standard ACU and FRACU uniforms heavily used during OEF/OIF exhibit the exact same kind of wear/discoloration. UCP-Delta was an extremely limited issue, short-lived uniform. Even the US military didnt bother going out of their way to make special insignia for it. Lastly, the UCP pattern is no longer, for most practical purposes, a current camouflage pattern of the US military. The pattern was retired from general use back in October. Its all OCP now. Thank you for the info! Good to know. Jacob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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