kammo-man Posted November 13, 2019 Share #26 Posted November 13, 2019 So much fun in this section. owen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P-59A Posted November 13, 2019 Author Share #27 Posted November 13, 2019 That's a real nice one. I sold one with no exterior paint for $1600 a few months ago, I would expect around $2500 for this one. WOW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickman983 Posted November 13, 2019 Share #28 Posted November 13, 2019 Looks like it made its way to eBay https://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-ww2-inland-paratrooper-liner-m1c-helmet-RARE-HARD-TO-FIND-WW2-M1-HELMET/193206591287?hash=item2cfc029f37:g:Z0AAAOSwQLZdy5vi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P-59A Posted November 13, 2019 Author Share #29 Posted November 13, 2019 Looks like it made its way to eBay https://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-ww2-inland-paratrooper-liner-m1c-helmet-RARE-HARD-TO-FIND-WW2-M1-HELMET/193206591287?hash=item2cfc029f37:g:Z0AAAOSwQLZdy5vi It did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6th.MG.BN Posted November 13, 2019 Share #30 Posted November 13, 2019 No longer. Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickman983 Posted November 13, 2019 Share #31 Posted November 13, 2019 I wonder what it ended up going for. Looks like the seller had a reserve even with the starting bid of $2500 so I have to imagine it went for a decent bit more than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airborneguy44 Posted November 13, 2019 Share #32 Posted November 13, 2019 This topic should've been posted in the "Real or what" section or "What it's worth" section Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantomfixer Posted November 13, 2019 Share #33 Posted November 13, 2019 this goes back to a seller and buyer (skyviper) agreeing to a price, the seller gains more knowledge and refunds the original sale... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6th.MG.BN Posted November 13, 2019 Share #34 Posted November 13, 2019 I'm guessing the seller got a lot of offers. Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NKina91 Posted November 13, 2019 Share #35 Posted November 13, 2019 The seller posted the item on a Facebook group and asked for comments on its value. I genuinely didnt know at the time the liners value. I messaged him and said once value was established, i would like to make an offer. He told me to make an offer right then so i did. He accepted it and the money was paid. Thats when i saw the post here a few hours later. He messaged me and told me his friend who was commenting here was upset that he sold me the liner because he wanted it, made the same offer i did, but didnt have the money to pay for it. He asked that i post that the money was refunded so that his friend would leave him alone about it. I noticed at that time the value of the liner based on the posts on here and messaged him giving him the value and that he could refund me my money so that he could sell it for more. I dont collect helmets to make money off of either parties ignorance of price. He told me he was happy to keep our original deal if i sent him $150 more. I asked him if he was completely sure based on the helmets value. He agreed and the extra money was sent. He told me the helmet would be going out this morning. I woke up to an eBay listing of the liner and no refund. I had to confront him to get my money back. The guy is playing games and i hope whoever he made a deal with actually receives their liner. I have PayPal receipts and transcripts of the whole conversation for proof of all claims here incase anyone wanted to see that. -Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted November 13, 2019 Share #36 Posted November 13, 2019 My head hurts now. Nice original liner none the less. Too bad money has to ruin everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grant G. Posted November 14, 2019 Share #37 Posted November 14, 2019 Well, I've got a confession to make. I saw the liner among eBay's newly-listed items this morning around 6:00 (CST). It was listed at auction with a starting price of $2500. I had no idea of this thread's existence or the liner's previous sale to two other individuals when I sent the seller an offer of $2200 (no bids had been placed, I was the only watcher). The seller accepted and I sent payment. As of right now, the liner is supposedly on its way to me, but who knows if the seller will decide to offer it to someone else for more money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ludwigh1980 Posted November 14, 2019 Share #38 Posted November 14, 2019 "Munching popcorn" in enraptured anticipation. I love the helmet forum , the civil war, Indian War and Spanish American War forums are just are too quiet, alas........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NKina91 Posted November 14, 2019 Share #39 Posted November 14, 2019 I hope it make its way to you Grant. Good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rooster Posted November 14, 2019 Share #40 Posted November 14, 2019 Would someone please explain what makes this liner worth $2200.00 ? To novice collectors like me, its a complete mystery why this item is so expensive ? ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickman983 Posted November 14, 2019 Share #41 Posted November 14, 2019 Would someone please explain what makes this liner worth $2200.00 ? To novice collectors like me, its a complete mystery why this item is so expensive ? ??? It's a factory made Inland paratrooper liner. Factory made paratrooper liners are all sought after and expensive if in good condition, however the Inland liners are more sought after when compared to the other high pressure para liners. Inland didn't make as many liners as other high pressure liner manufacturers during the war as they switched production in 1943 to focus on manufacturing weapons. In particular they ended up manufacturing M1A1 paratrooper carbines. I think the limited quantity combined with the other manufacturing connections to paratroopers makes them very desirable for some collectors. This one in particular is in very nice condition. Other manufacturers of paratrooper liners that I can recall are Westinghouse, St. Clair, and Hawley. Westinghouse airborne liners typically go for less than an Inland liner and a legitimate Hawley para liner in similar condition to the Inland liner in this thread would go for a significant amount more. I'm not certain on the St. Clair liners but I would assume those go for a pretty penny as well. Personally, I don't think I could justify owning an Inland para liner unless I found one in the wild for cheap, but I'm not a hardcore airborne collector. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rooster Posted November 14, 2019 Share #42 Posted November 14, 2019 Thank you Nick! Makes sense now. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted November 14, 2019 Share #43 Posted November 14, 2019 They are also the primary liner used by the airborne forces on D-Day. So people like that about them too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Persian Gulf Command Posted November 14, 2019 Share #44 Posted November 14, 2019 Additionally, for Operation Torch, Overlord, Market Garden the Airborne Helmet liner with factory applied "A-Yokes" is a must. There are plenty of discussions regarding D-Bail or Fixed Bail Helmet Shells being used. Both are appropriate. However, an Inland Airborne Liner is necessary to have an authentic representation for these WW2 Paratrooper operations. The Hawley and St. Clair Airborne Liners are very rare and the Westinghouse Airborne Liner was not used until very late 1944 or early 1945. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raymon Posted November 26, 2019 Share #45 Posted November 26, 2019 Additionally, for Operation Torch, Overlord, Market Garden the Airborne Helmet liner with factory applied "A-Yokes" is a must. There are plenty of discussions regarding D-Bail or Fixed Bail Helmet Shells being used. Both are appropriate. However, an Inland Airborne Liner is necessary to have an authentic representation for these WW2 Paratrooper operations. The Hawley and St. Clair Airborne Liners are very rare and the Westinghouse Airborne Liner was not used until very late 1944 or early 1945. Addition: During the Holland campaign (Market-Garden) early Westinghouse airborne liners were wide used. Many period photos show use of this type of airborne liner. There were also several local pick ups from the battle fields. Regards, Raymon Verzonden vanaf mijn iPhone met Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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