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Krag or Winchester-Lee


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Found these photos on-line and trying to ID if these Marines are armed with Krag's or Winchester-Lee Rifles. Can anyone ID them from the images provided. Thanks!

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Marchville1918

I believe that I can make out the suspenders used with the Mills belt for the Lee rifle on several of the men. I think that the Lee was the standard rifle for that period for the Marines. Pretty hard to tell.

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The Krag has a straight stock and the rifles in the top photo appear to have a semi pistol grip which is indicative of the Lee. The top of the rear receiver also forms a higher hump on the Lee and I believe I see that on the rifles too. I think the rifles are Lees as the others have concluded.

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I say Lee as well - but besides that, I have to say what a great picture the first one is. You don't really see Boxer Rebellion photos that aren't posed, this one is a real eye catcher, at least for me! Was there more where these came from?

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Sadly not of Marines....many of the Legation Quarter and a number have been published from this series, but like you say that first one is not posed. You can see the dust on the one Marines uniform. I wish I knew if they were Defenders or a part of the Relief Force

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RustyCanteen

The first photo definitely appears to feature Lee's. You can see what appears to be the magazine protruding from the bottom of the stock.

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RC Thank you for weighing in....I think that adds to the consensus...given all the clues everyone spotted....now I wish I knew if they were part of the Relief Force or not.

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Great image, I too wish an exact date could be pinned down as far as relief force versus defenders as they are wearing coats versus shirts.

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