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Late 1880s Cavalryman's rig


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One more addition, yes this really the very last one (already said before at least twice, but this time is true... ),   -   even though not a US militari item, perhaps the opposite, but strictly original and coming from late 1890s.  Indian-made and decorated knife sheath, to go together with Cavalryman's carbine ammo belt (and indirectly, the native-made gauntlets).

 

Around 2,565 tiny beads secured onto sheath's front side. Many a soldier wished owning one kind or another of native-made accessories, always nice to see and often more practical and durable than the Govt.-issued ones.

 

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... some more pics of the Schofield under different lightings.  No way, blue is quite a most difficult color to have realistically in photos  -   be it a fabric, wool, or a metal item. In my instance it isn't the original factory blue, rather has been reblued (do not know when and where) and although it turned out a good result, the exact S&W hue hasn't been obtained.

The least of problems of course, Schofields are so much rare to be found here in Europe regardless of the condition.  This one anyway is mechanically like brand new, and cosmetically looks the same.

 

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thanx Paul

yes the more I look at it the more I like it   -   not always so, I've got it in 2018 and for many years earlier the gun didn't have a particular appeal to me as a Cavalry revolver. Yes interesting  and mechanically innovative, its basic design was born in late 1869 for the S&W #3 'American' model and quite an impressive step forward, but I never thought at it as a possible collection piece.  Subsequently I began to appreciate the Schofield and generally speaking the S&W 'top break' guns much more.

After I had the ultimate certainty that any martially proofed Colt SAA in decent shape would be impossible to get for a number of reasons, the chance for this Schofield came out three years ago at a gunshop not even 50 Km. away  -   a true stroke of luck. Incidentally the same seller had for sale a martially marked Colt SAA from 1886, original and in enough good shape, but price was almost six times the Schofield's so I opted for this one.

 

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Got a second pair Cavalry gauntlets in 2021 but didn't take photos. Picked up today after some months and have had them in a small display together with Schofield revolver and its accessories.

 

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 Well done reblue aside, that's a very nice Schofield for anyone's collection. It retains all the original markings including the cartouche on the grips. Could you show a picture of the butt with the U.S. marking and serial number?  Have you had the grips(stocks as S&W called them) off yet? The serial number should be stamped on the inside of the right right stock also. Thanks for the additional photos.

 

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Steve thanx very much for apreciating,  yes a nice revolver even though, not a professionally reblued one in my opinion  -  but I'm very satisfied, I never had thought I someday could find one in this shape about 40 Km. away from home.

It has got all the due markings outside and inside, including the various Ws and  Ps.  S/n is #5011, date on left grip is 1876 and the two cartouches are the correct ones for a gun inspected that year  -   left grip shows JRJr.   and the other CW for Charles Woodman.

 

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Right side of barrel has the double patent date. This type of marking I had read started showing up at around #4,800 but only very slowly, and reached predominance at around #5,500.

 

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Beautiful display and really like the Schofield revolver. This is a group of third cav. trooper in 1884 armed with rifle and Schofield revolvers. More mounted infantry than Cav.

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Great photo Tom,

Here is one in my accumulation by an AZ photographer of a "mounted infantry" (maybe) with a rifle and a Schofield and a knife in his belt.

 

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... re-joining the topic after almost one year (!), 

months ago finally been able to change the field blouse to another specimen, this one showing Sergeant chevrons  -   really a very hard task but, necessary in order to match to a correct Mod. 1885 trousers I've got last springtime. These latter do have 1" wide Sergeant stripes, in that darker yellow being the standard since mid-1887 if I'm not wrong.

Also, I strongly wished the newer blouse be as in best shape as possible (like the other blouse already was) and in fact, nothing more than a couple tiny moth holes in the back. The three smaller buttons on each sleeve are present too.

One more step toward my final project of complete, fully equipped Cavalry sergeant about 1889 - 1890.  Hoping to have it completed before too long   -   really the very last project, and the last full-size character collecting-wise for me.

 

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... forgot,  after a good many years finally a pair boots is coming as well. 😅   Should be here very soon, so that only the spurs still will be needed.

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Cannot tell, I've got no references. They aren't the official issue patterns (Mod. 1884/1886 or 1889).  Sure a private purchase with very soft buckskin hands, sewn to a lesser quality and stiffer forearms.

These latter somehow recall to me a style of gloves I've noticed in some CW period photos.

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yes,  never thought in earnest at any saber.

Item in itself never was particularly attractive to me, do not know why, and anycase it would have been outdated as a weapon in actual field use at such a late period for my project. Time ago I was offered a nice and complete saber here in Italy, but price was super-high and, as said, I wasn't much interested in it though.

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... at last, got the boots yesterday. Quite a lengthy searching, my preference was for the Mod. 1885 but the three pairs I've found here or there in about five years I couldn't get for one reason or another.

Thus the Cavalryman will have to be satisfied with these Mod. 1876, at least they're still very good as for toughness, relative softness, and no missing parts  -  not even one single stitching. Black finish is almost all gone but not a big issue; all the four pulls are in place and solidly sewn on, as well as the soles are good still well secured to the feet, and just a bit worn. Not an excessive time between the Cavalryman as planned period-wise, and when these boots ended production (springtime 1885 if I'm not wrong) so, think it's still good enough.

 

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1 hour ago, Dirk said:

Yet another great thread Blue Book Guy! As always very informative!!

 

Really too kind Dirk, thanx very much.

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Amazing condition for boots of that era!  You found a hen's tooth! More correctly--a pair of hen's teeth!  One more thing...........amazing condition!   

 

 

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7 hours ago, GWS said:

Amazing condition for boots of that era!  You found a hen's tooth! More correctly--a pair of hen's teeth!  One more thing...........amazing condition!   

 

 

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Thanx very much Steve, yes they look great indeed.

Putting inside them the legs of a possible mannequinn (if and when I'll be able to complee the thing) while keeping the boots undamaged and the legs still a steady platform, will be a different matter I guess   -   that day I'll see how to act.

Franco.

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