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Looks like the BN CSM forgot to spot-check his boss before he got his DA photo!

Looks like a unit photo to me. DA photos do not have flags in the background.

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Here's a Command Sergeant Major of the 2nd Infantry Division wearing the tabs in the 80s.

Seen this brief in the July 1970 issue of Army Digest.

 

CSM TABS Authority for wear of the combat leaders identifcation device (green tabs) by Commands Sergeants Major has been rescinded by the DA. A study of the CSM prorgam concluded in part, that CSMs are key staff members rather then combat leaders and therefore not entitled to wear the tabs.

 

 

 

 

 

Now this could be a typo on the part of the editors, with CSM supoosed to be SGMs, what do you think?

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Here's my unresearched Ike.

 

Thomas W. Geren. His enlistment record: http://aad.archives.gov/aad/record-detail.jsp?dt=893&mtch=1&cat=WR26&tf=F&sc=24994,24995,24996,24998,24997,24993,24981,24983&bc=,sl,fd&txt_24994=39305075&op_24994=0&nfo_24994=V,8,1900&rpp=10&pg=1&rid=7792879

 

And his final resting place, in Oregon: http://findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Geren&GSfn=Thomas&GSmn=w&GSbyrel=all&GSdyrel=all&GSob=n&GRid=692487&df=all&

 

He was actually Canadian, which might explain that badge. Perhaps he was prior service in the Canadian forces and then moved to the US.

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I thought the attached might be of interest.

That's great, thanks so much for posting it.

 

Seen this brief in the July 1970 issue of Army Digest.

 

CSM TABS Authority for wear of the combat leaders identifcation device (green tabs) by Commands Sergeants Major has been rescinded by the DA. A study of the CSM prorgam concluded in part, that CSMs are key staff members rather then combat leaders and therefore not entitled to wear the tabs.

Now this could be a typo on the part of the editors, with CSM supoosed to be SGMs, what do you think?

 

With the above orders in mind, I think CSM was probably correct if the WW2 standards hadn't changed much. It seems like "combat leader" was more strictly defined then, with a sergeant major being seen as HQ staff. Very important, but not a "line" leader. My grandpa was sergeant major of an engineer regt. in WW2 and his MOS code was "administrative NCO." I'm not sure if it was the same in a combat arms unit, but I think it was.

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Here's another another one of mine. Purchased from a fellow forum member and belonged to a Sgt. Theodor Dorr a forward observer from the 666th/687 FAB's.

 

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Have a combat leader jacket from a soldier who served in army/corps level unit, is much tougher to find than one at division level.

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I'm not sure if these are some kind of leadership tabs or part of the DUI worn by this Transportation Corps lieutenant. They look more like eppaulettes than tabs to me.

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I'm not sure if these are some kind of leadership tabs or part of the DUI worn by this Transportation Corps lieutenant. They look more like eppaulettes than tabs to me.

Chances are this loop is related to the Transportation Center and School, note he's wearing the DI and patch for this organization, he's possibly a student, or a student leader, I,m also betting the colors of this rather large loop is in the TC colors of Yellow on Brick.

 

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Here's a photo of Sergeant Major Of The Army George W. Dunaway wearing leadership tabs with no DUI. I thought that position was a staff assignment and not a leadership role.

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At the recommendation of forum member Jguy1986, I thought I would share these photos of a 101st AB officer wearing leadership epaulets. These would have been taken circa June 1945.

 

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