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That one looks like the same style as the first one but with a protective rim and thicker paint on it. Notice in the last picture posted above in the crown of the liner the green paint has worn away and shows the low pressure style material.

 

Very interesting liners, never seen any similar, they definitely could be some kind of prototype liner.

 

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I don't think it has a liner at all. I think the suspension is attached straight to the metal shell, you can see the bolts holding it in. Maybe they were experimenting on a one piece configuration instead of a liner and shell configuration. I would think it would be cheaper to do it this way, and also faster. Pretty cool!!!!

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2nd one looks similar to the titanium prototypes they made

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I don't think it has a liner at all. I think the suspension is attached straight to the metal shell, you can see the bolts holding it in. Maybe they were experimenting on a one piece configuration instead of a liner and shell configuration. I would think it would be cheaper to do it this way, and also faster. Pretty cool!!!!

I thought that at first too, but if you look at the area that Ive circled, it appears to have a rough patch almost like the fibre liners sometimes had, it looks like a composite or fibre-like material as opposed to steel in my opinion, and the rim doesnt look like metal either.

 

 

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You can see the second one looks to be the same low pressure material as a Saint Claire liner, the boarder also looks to be made of a similar material, just painted over.

 

Of the few prototypes I have seen these two would be the only two I have seen with what looks to be standard rayon webbing.

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The USMC m1917 is one I am staying far, far away from.

 

I was thinking the same thing. Check completed listings also.

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I presume you are referring to these sold listings all from the same seller?

 

Yes.

 

They all seem very sloppy compared to other known examples?? Except for the 2nd one from the bottom, but still seems off, like it was rubbed?

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I'm not qualified to offer an opinion on any of those helmets, but knowing the rarity of WW1 USMC helmets, one seller who has sold 6 in 2 months raises my eyebrows.

 

I strongly agree.

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The second liner/helmet posted looks a lot like the props used in the TV series Combat. Something like season three or four they switched to non-original steel pots since the weight caused discomfort when long days on the set. A readily available liner modified to simulate a real M1, perhaps ?!!

 

Was thinking the same...movie prop.

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When you zoom in real close on the interior you can see thin paint, and what to me looks extremely similar to high pressure liners, the "weave" they have per say. I'm leaning to wondering if these were heavily modified for movie props, like putting "strips" of fabric over the exterior of the liner to give it a more M1 shape (with plaster or something?) Then repainted and given a rim. While knows really.

 

Thay and if these were real prototype liners, and I dont care the condition kept in, you'd at least expect more wear, and even dust over their 70 plus years of existence. Something about them is honestly just too new imo.

 

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