anton67 Posted January 25, 2019 #102 Posted January 25, 2019 more The inside of the liner. Dont ask what maker as I cannot find it and I am not intending on cleaning it out.
anton67 Posted January 25, 2019 #103 Posted January 25, 2019 Last photo of the front of the helmet. Thank you for looking.
anton67 Posted January 27, 2019 #104 Posted January 27, 2019 I would like to replace the Chaplain's Crosses (for display purposes ONLY and NOT in a permanent manor). So, if anyone has one (or two) period crosses for sale please PM me.
644td Posted January 27, 2019 #105 Posted January 27, 2019 Mark the only problem you will have using period crosses is one cross will be damaged for the placement. I would see if a more current cross will match the dimensions and break off one stem that matches the one hole that still has the solder and bend the other stem on the inside of the helmet so as not to damage the liner. You can put a correct one on the liner. Nice helmet. Marty
anton67 Posted January 29, 2019 #106 Posted January 29, 2019 Thanks Marty. Going to the Allentown Gun Show this weekend and hopefully I can find what I need. I will post photos if I can pull it together.
kammo-man Posted January 29, 2019 #107 Posted January 29, 2019 If you are messing with the helmet Anton why not clean it out and find the maker ?
anton67 Posted January 29, 2019 #108 Posted January 29, 2019 Because I am not “messing “ with the helmet. I am putting insignia on for display purposes only. Besides who cares which company made the liner?
kammo-man Posted January 29, 2019 #109 Posted January 29, 2019 Adding anything to a helmet it actually "messing" with it.
anton67 Posted January 29, 2019 #110 Posted January 29, 2019 I guess it depends on who is defining the word “messing”. I am not permanently affixing anything to the helmet. You can call that whatever you like. Either way I am not going to clean the inside of the liner.
anton67 Posted January 29, 2019 #112 Posted January 29, 2019 Like I said, I am not "messing with" the Chaplain's helmet. There is nothing "improper" or "deceiving" about what I am doing since I am not permanently affixing the cross or adding the cross to deceive a potential buyer. Not that I have to explain myself to you since frankly it is my helmet, and if I want to chuck it off of a bridge or paint it bright pink, I can do so, Now if I were to take a plain jane helmet and then paint it up to look like a really super awesome ARVN Ranger helmet, that would be "messing with" the helmet.
dogface44 Posted January 30, 2019 #113 Posted January 30, 2019 Hello, You are the owner of the helmet and do what you want with it. But since you are talking about it on a forum, it is normal that some people will find it disturbing. I also think it is a strange idea to mess with it as it is totally untouched since WW2. One can clearly see the mark of the cross on the shell, which itself gives a lot of charm to the helmet
GeneralCheese Posted January 30, 2019 #114 Posted January 30, 2019 I'm completely with Anton on this, he's not "messing" with the helmet by non-permanently sticking a cross on it. He's going to basically balance it in the existing holes. It's like saying putting a helmet in a box is messing with it. You can just take it out of the box again, no harm done.
Bugme Posted January 30, 2019 #115 Posted January 30, 2019 Adding to it, is actually taking away from the helmet. In my opinion, I like to leave a helmet as it was found. But, that's just me. That said, the owner of any helmet can do what pleases them. Whether I like it or not, since it is not displayed in my collection, but is displayed in Anton's collection, my opinion does not matter.
MasonK Posted January 30, 2019 Author #116 Posted January 30, 2019 I could see if Mark said he's going to braze on a cross to the shell, however he specifically said he wasn't permanently affixing it, and it is for his display. What he's doing is no different than adding a Mitchell cover to a Vietnam era helmet, or a net to a WWII helmet, or replacing a leather liner chinstrap. They are not permanently modifying the helmet, as they are easily reversible. At this point, the helmet is pretty well documented now that it's been posted/discussed on the forum; just shy of 5k views. I imagine anyone looking to purchase it will have already seen this topic, or stumble upon it when looking to buy. Not implying that Mark would even attempt to try to pass it off as originally having the crosses.
huntssurplus Posted January 31, 2019 #117 Posted January 31, 2019 I think that as long as it doesn't permanently damage the helmet in any way then it's fine. Personally, I would keep it the way it is as I find it more enjoyable how it is, but he may do what he wishes as it is his. Call me a helmet purist or whatever you want, I'm just in this hobby for the fun like everyone else. Personally, I find more enjoyment from keeping things the way they are, but maybe that is just me. If I spend my money on something then I should be able to do what I please with it, even if it is to the disdain of others. Hunt
anton67 Posted January 31, 2019 #118 Posted January 31, 2019 For the record, from day one I intended to replace the cross for display (in a NON-permanent manor). If you re-read my post (104) you will see that I was not looking for opinions on that issue. I was merely hoping someone may have a cross available. That being said, I expected that others may have an issue with that course of action and have no problem with them voicing their opinions. I understand their point of view.
conn Posted January 31, 2019 #119 Posted January 31, 2019 could the cross been taken off during time of service ? why is the area above so smooth ? food for thought
Costa Posted January 31, 2019 #120 Posted January 31, 2019 put it to rest guys. its his and not being altered for eternity. its nice, its real and its his.
Justin Posted January 31, 2019 #121 Posted January 31, 2019 could the cross been taken off during time of service ? why is the area above so smooth ? food for thought That is a thought to be considered.
Burning Hazard Posted February 1, 2019 #122 Posted February 1, 2019 could the cross been taken off during time of service ? why is the area above so smooth ? food for thought Looks like something was there before it was scraped off and helmet repainted with another coat of OD paint; maybe a previous cross or rank. Not uncommon for military to recycle/re-use helmets like that. Pat
anton67 Posted February 1, 2019 #123 Posted February 1, 2019 From looking at the helmet in hand I really do not believe that it was ever repainted. If the cross was taken off for re-service I would think that the area where the cross was present would have been painted over. Just my two cents.
Costa Posted February 1, 2019 #124 Posted February 1, 2019 the only way you are going to get the full story on it is if golden arrow can get his record if not destroyed in the 73 fire. that will tell you if a chap. or med.
kammo-man Posted February 2, 2019 #125 Posted February 2, 2019 I think that as long as it doesn't permanently damage the helmet in any way then it's fine. Personally, I would keep it the way it is as I find it more enjoyable how it is, but he may do what he wishes as it is his. Call me a helmet purist or whatever you want, I'm just in this hobby for the fun like everyone else. Personally, I find more enjoyment from keeping things the way they are, but maybe that is just me. If I spend my money on something then I should be able to do what I please with it, even if it is to the disdain of others. Hunt It will damage the helmet Anton is not a professional Messing with fragile paint in any way will alter it Moderation of this thread has been selective Let it go Or not Owen
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