catfish774 Posted January 19, 2019 Share #1 Posted January 19, 2019 Yes I know everyone has and opinion and some of them.......so take a look. Stamped PAL on one side of blade and USMC on the other. Pretty sure it isn't an original WW@. the sheath on the other hand... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doyler Posted January 19, 2019 Share #2 Posted January 19, 2019 Nice war time made PAL in my honest opinion.The Marked scabbards are not common in this condition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catfish774 Posted January 19, 2019 Author Share #3 Posted January 19, 2019 Not the same knife, but the same style "PAL" on the one in question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catfish774 Posted January 19, 2019 Author Share #4 Posted January 19, 2019 Nice war time made PAL in my honest opinion.The Marked scabbards are not common in this condition Thank you. I am new at this and although I am buying most of these from experienced collectors, I had one mention this to me as fake, a modern reproduction. I was unsure about the style of the PAL logo on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catfish774 Posted January 19, 2019 Author Share #5 Posted January 19, 2019 Turns out he had two of the knifes mixed up, his concerns were with this Camillus, N.Y U.S.M.C. blade marked example. After comparing this to some other Camillus, N.Y. made knifes, I see the short...."The WW II era knife has a long sweeping false edge while the current repro has a very short and sharply curved false edge"http://www.usmilitaryknives.com/camillus.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doyler Posted January 19, 2019 Share #6 Posted January 19, 2019 I dunno...The Camillus dont look repro to me.Could be retipped or just a factory anomolie. Better pics of the blade markings,pommel and pommel/tang attachment may help but It looks WW2 period from the picture posted.Im guessing USMS is on the reverse side of the blade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catfish774 Posted January 19, 2019 Author Share #7 Posted January 19, 2019 I dunno...The Camillus dont look repro to me.Could be retipped or just a factory anomolie. Better pics of the blade markings,pommel and pommel/tang attachment may help but It looks WW2 period from the picture posted.Im guessing USMS is on the reverse side of the blade? As I said I am learning. I made the call on info from another collector in another forum and info provided through Frank Trzaska's website. http://www.usmilitaryknives.com/camillus.htm Pic is a comparison between 3 Camillus MK2's. Suspect is on the left of course. I'm all ears and eyes..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catfish774 Posted January 19, 2019 Author Share #8 Posted January 19, 2019 I dunno...The Camillus dont look repro to me.Could be retipped or just a factory anomolie. Better pics of the blade markings,pommel and pommel/tang attachment may help but It looks WW2 period from the picture posted.Im guessing USMS is on the reverse side of the blade? Here are 2 more pics Doyler....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catfish774 Posted January 19, 2019 Author Share #9 Posted January 19, 2019 Comparison of the stamping...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doyler Posted January 19, 2019 Share #10 Posted January 19, 2019 Seeing the font of the USMC I would say its a match to Franks info.Also the tip grind.Thanks for the additional photos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byf41 Posted January 19, 2019 Share #11 Posted January 19, 2019 I would agree the left knife Is post WWII , the Pal looks ok IMO . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKIPH Posted January 19, 2019 Share #12 Posted January 19, 2019 Agree with all! The PAL is a very nice WW2, the Camillus is probably from the 1990s when they were selling the newer up dated versions with a different grind on the top edge. Still a nice functional Camillus. SKIP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sactroop Posted January 19, 2019 Share #13 Posted January 19, 2019 Yes on the blade marked Camillus 1219C2 knives the position of the comma between CAMILLUS and N.Y. is a dead giveaway. Always placed higher on the WW2 knives. Also the Y. on the WW2 knives look like they were struck with a hand cut punch. The C on the WW2 knives are almost alway much closer to a closed shape, closer to an O. I saved this picture a few years ago, because I thought it was interesting.Shows a knife with the post Feb-1974 blade stamp with a short sweep compared to the knives I've seen up until then. Still seems a bit transitional, though I wonder if the differences are all in the way the blade is presented to the tooling used to produce the grind. Here's an example of the grind present on a knife made after Camillus switched the blade stamp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sactroop Posted January 19, 2019 Share #14 Posted January 19, 2019 But just to keep us on our toes, not all U.S.M.C. Camillus reproductions have the newer grind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costa Posted January 20, 2019 Share #15 Posted January 20, 2019 the Pal knife is quite nice and that marked scabbard is not that common. as for the Camillus with the short sweep at the tip, Camillus is no longer in business and that is a nice knife in a very clean condition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doyler Posted January 22, 2019 Share #16 Posted January 22, 2019 New Camillius in the box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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