Charlie Flick Posted August 12, 2018 Share #1 Posted August 12, 2018 Gentlemen: I ran across this pic a while ago and found it most interesting. I don't know what the weapon is, but I am guessing that it might be a captured enemy weapon since it does not appear USGI and it is dirty and pretty beat up. It would never pass inspection like that! Any idea as to what this weapon is? Regards, Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navybean Posted August 12, 2018 Share #2 Posted August 12, 2018 That is a WW1 German anti tank riffle I believe. Captured piece Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marchville1918 Posted August 12, 2018 Share #3 Posted August 12, 2018 That is a German Mauser anti tank gun. A pretty awesome think to fire from the shoulder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navybean Posted August 12, 2018 Share #4 Posted August 12, 2018 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mauser_1918_T-Gewehr M1918 Mauser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Flick Posted August 12, 2018 Author Share #5 Posted August 12, 2018 Wow. You guys are fast! Good job on correctly identifying this captured weapon as a German Mauser anti-tank rifle. Looks like this one saw a lot of action before the second owner took over. Thanks for the ID. Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundance Posted August 12, 2018 Share #6 Posted August 12, 2018 If I can ask - what caliber would that be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inertord Posted August 12, 2018 Share #7 Posted August 12, 2018 13.2 × 92 mm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aznation Posted August 12, 2018 Share #8 Posted August 12, 2018 If I can ask - what caliber would that be? Maybe a visual comparison of the caliber... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frogskin7 Posted August 12, 2018 Share #9 Posted August 12, 2018 The very nice T-Gewehr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garandomatic Posted August 12, 2018 Share #10 Posted August 12, 2018 Saw an Amishman peddling one at a swap meet about ten years ago. Weirdest thing I think I've ever witnessed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taber10 Posted August 12, 2018 Share #11 Posted August 12, 2018 13.2 × 92 mm More specifically, 13.2 X 92 SR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmanton Posted August 12, 2018 Share #12 Posted August 12, 2018 In the 50's they were for sale in the back of the NRA magazine. I don't remember if it was the American Rifleman back then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
445th Bomb Group Posted August 13, 2018 Share #13 Posted August 13, 2018 The National Firearms Museum in Fairfax has one of the Mauser anti-tank rifles in their display of WWI weapons. An early "Scout Rifle" is on display in the same case at the right. Its a cool little museum, definitely worth a visit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchangelDM Posted August 15, 2018 Share #14 Posted August 15, 2018 Thats a beast ! Thanks for the fantastic photo - Dean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacksmith Posted August 15, 2018 Share #15 Posted August 15, 2018 For those playing the “Battlefield 1” video game, You can equip a “tank hunter” kit on some of the maps. It contains the Tankgewehr rifle. Especially on the open desert maps, it’s a monster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchangelDM Posted August 15, 2018 Share #16 Posted August 15, 2018 For those playing the Battlefield 1 video game, You can equip a tank hunter kit on some of the maps. It contains the Tankgewehr rifle. Especially on the open desert maps, its a monster. Nailed it ! Yes you can, its an amazing weapon alongside the raider kit - Dean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacksmith Posted August 15, 2018 Share #17 Posted August 15, 2018 With a sawed-off double-barrel shotgun as a secondary weapon. Yikes. Nailed it ! Yes you can, its an amazing weapon alongside the raider kit - Dean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doyler Posted August 15, 2018 Share #18 Posted August 15, 2018 We have a couple in local museums and have heard stories of two more stll in the hands of private owners Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchangelDM Posted August 15, 2018 Share #19 Posted August 15, 2018 With a sawed-off double-barrel shotgun as a secondary weapon. Yikes. That Class is lethal Blacksmith on any map, This is the first time Ive seen an actual one in a photo. Its huge - Dean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacksmith Posted August 15, 2018 Share #20 Posted August 15, 2018 To give some perspective on size: That Class is lethal Blacksmith on any map, This is the first time Ive seen an actual one in a photo. Its huge - Dean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap Camouflage Pattern I Posted August 17, 2018 Share #21 Posted August 17, 2018 Saw an Amishman peddling one at a swap meet about ten years ago. Weirdest thing I think I've ever witnessed. If my understand of US law is correct it would legally be a destructive device because it is over 12.7mm (.50 cal). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garandomatic Posted August 18, 2018 Share #22 Posted August 18, 2018 I've heard that too. I vaguely also recall there being a potential exception for this weapon due to C&R status, but could be wrong. I've read that a few owners sleeve them to .50 BMG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B24AT6 Posted August 19, 2018 Share #23 Posted August 19, 2018 The TGewr was removed from the NFA years ago. The 50 cal conversions were done more for shootablity due to 13mm being almost unobtainable. I have never fired my 13 mm TGewr,but have fired one in 50cal. These rifles are a beast to fire, they kick like a mule. But the TGewr can be fun to shoot with a little bit of padding on your shoulder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap Camouflage Pattern I Posted August 19, 2018 Share #24 Posted August 19, 2018 The TGewr was removed from the NFA years ago. The 50 cal conversions were done more for shootablity due to 13mm being almost unobtainable. I have never fired my 13 mm TGewr,but have fired one in 50cal. These rifles are a beast to fire, they kick like a mule. But the TGewr can be fun to shoot with a little bit of padding on your shoulder. so would that mean it was ruled to have a "sporting purpose" like 12 gauge shotguns or how does that work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B24AT6 Posted August 20, 2018 Share #25 Posted August 20, 2018 In the case of the T-Gewher it was removed from the NFA as a Curio and Relic, much like how the Broomhandle Mauser and other vintage stocked pistols are not considered Short Barreled Rifles. This means that though these may be part of typical NFA classifications they are exempted because the ATF believes that they are not likely to be used as weapons. Here is a link to the C&R list and Section III lists all firearms that have been removed from the NFA which includes the "German, Model 1918, (WWI) Anti-Tank Rifle (PzAgew 1918), cal. 13.25mm" https://www.atf.gov/resource-center/docs/p-5300-11-firearms-curios-or-relics-listpdf/download Here is a picture of the example I own, which I hope is ok in the context of the conversation: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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