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Alright so I’ve only found one other forum post from awhile back on this style of hat and the forum members were split between it being civilian or a PP Korean War item. Well according to IMA it is a private purchase British variant of the B2 Winter Flying Cap. I would like to hear everyone’s thoughts on this or if anyone knows of any photographic evidence of this cap. The reason I ask is that a local antique store has this exact hat at a great price and labeled incorrectly along with some other military items. I didn’t pick it up because it seemed close but too unfamiliar for me. I’ve known IMA as a reputable source of authentic militaria, albeit very pricey, but would like to hear from the forum members.

 

https://www.ima-usa.com/products/original-u-s-wwii-usaaf-british-made-b-2-style-winter-flying-cap

 

(I posted this in “real or what?” Category but I feel like I’ll get better responses here as it is a time sensitive question for me; hopefully it can also function as a good reference if legit. Admins, feel free to remove the original post)

 

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Could easily be American made, are there any markings? I have seen civilian used ones from time to time.

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Could easily be American made, are there any markings? I have seen civilian used ones from time to time.

The one in the antique store has a faint marking that looks like it was once a name, sadly it seemed unreadable from the short look I got at it.

GEN. David R. Atchinson- MO State Guard              ACW

PVT. John H. Drury- Co. A, 27th Ky IR                      ACW               Died of Typhoid

PVT. Henry E. Thomas- Co. I, 17th Ky IR                  ACW

PVT. Joseph E. Drury- Co. E, 356th IR, 89th ID       WWI                WIA

SGT. Edward P. Drury- 51st QM Training Co.           WWII

PFC. Delmer C. Koonter- Co. I, 142nd IR, 36th ID    WWII              WIA

SC3c Michael C. Drury- LCS (L) (3) 70                     WWII

SGT. Steven D. Koonter- 5th Cav, 1st Cav Div         Vietnam

SGT. John M. Drury- 227th AVN Bn. 1st Cav Div     Vietnam

 

Contact me with items from the 36th Infantry Division or any IDd uniforms of European Theater Infantry Divisions

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Other than the seller's description, do you have any other reliable source that would support their story about a shortage of B-2 caps being filled with "private purchase" British made ones? I've never heard, or seen photographic evidence of, this. Rather, it looks more like a civilian winter cap being passed off as something military to make a sale. My opinion anyway, and yes, I know everybody has one, but the yellow quilted lining, chin strap, green underside of the bill, and the brown fur all differ from the features of an actual B-2 cap and tell me this is not really what it is being represented as.

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I believe this is an American civilian cap probably for children. Here's a B-2 pic I snagged from the Internet. Not even close. Bobgee

 

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Agree looks like kids civilian cap

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Yeah, when someone make a claim like that always remember that it is their obligation to back up their claim and not your obligation to dig up nonexistent evidence. I know you only saw one for sale but this is one of the many problems with the internet. Everyone has a voice now and apparently something spoken in error can become a building block for others.

I will pile on with those who have never heard or seen evidence of this cap as stated.

JMO,

Dave

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Thanks everyone for the help. I Never picked up the hat and hope no one does. Before I had no reason to distrust ima but now I’ll be sure to stay away. I emailed them a couple times asking where they got the proof for it and for some odd reason there was no response ;)

 

Thanks for helping me clear it up, I hope no one else gets scammed.

GEN. David R. Atchinson- MO State Guard              ACW

PVT. John H. Drury- Co. A, 27th Ky IR                      ACW               Died of Typhoid

PVT. Henry E. Thomas- Co. I, 17th Ky IR                  ACW

PVT. Joseph E. Drury- Co. E, 356th IR, 89th ID       WWI                WIA

SGT. Edward P. Drury- 51st QM Training Co.           WWII

PFC. Delmer C. Koonter- Co. I, 142nd IR, 36th ID    WWII              WIA

SC3c Michael C. Drury- LCS (L) (3) 70                     WWII

SGT. Steven D. Koonter- 5th Cav, 1st Cav Div         Vietnam

SGT. John M. Drury- 227th AVN Bn. 1st Cav Div     Vietnam

 

Contact me with items from the 36th Infantry Division or any IDd uniforms of European Theater Infantry Divisions

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I have the exact same hat, only difference is mine has blond fur. Definitely a civilian cap. I call mine my “Elmer Fudd” hat & wear it in the winter just to piss off the Mrs. She hates the damned thing with a passion and can’t stand it because for some reason, I constantly get compliments on it. Was well worth the $15 I spent on it!

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