doyler Posted April 8, 2018 Share #1 Posted April 8, 2018 Often we see posts here on forum for commercial camo uniforms asking if they are real/not real. There were commercial camo made during the period worn at times and called Duck Hunter camo. Roy Boehm mentions in his book where they purchased camo uniforms from SEARS &Roebuck when tasked with out fitting the newely formed Navy SEAL. This photo shows the use of a commercial camo uniform in Viet Nam worn by a Navy Seal Team Member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacksmith Posted April 8, 2018 Share #2 Posted April 8, 2018 Cool pic Ron - I love the electrical tape 'safety' he put on his red smoke grenade. Can't have that puppy go off when you're still wearing it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doyler Posted April 8, 2018 Author Share #3 Posted April 8, 2018 Cool pic Ron - I love the electrical tape 'safety' he put on his red smoke grenade. Can't have that puppy go off when you're still wearing it... THanks I'm sure it would be a unpleasant deal if it got lit while wearing it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Lsparks Posted April 8, 2018 Share #6 Posted April 8, 2018 Ok...so I’ve seen a few of these type items. Odd stuff like laundry bags or duffle type bags. How can you tell what is Mil use and what’s Civ use? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martinjmpr Posted April 8, 2018 Share #7 Posted April 8, 2018 Ok...so I’ve seen a few of these type items. Odd stuff like laundry bags or duffle type bags. How can you tell what is Mil use and what’s Civ use? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I'm not an expert collector but I'd look for things like laundry marks or names that can be traced to a specific sailor, soldier or marine. Unfortunately, every one of those things can be faked so the real answer is that unless you get something like a period photograph where the camo pattern matches exactly, there's no way to be 100% sure, that's just the way it is. IMO that's a reason to be wary of such items and to not over pay for them simply because someone tells you a great "story" behind them. The story may be completely true, it may be partially true but embellished, or it may be 100% false, but the uniform won't really tell you which of those it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doyler Posted April 8, 2018 Author Share #8 Posted April 8, 2018 Ok...so I’ve seen a few of these type items. Odd stuff like laundry bags or duffle type bags. How can you tell what is Mil use and what’s Civ use? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Some of the brands that can be found are the KAMO made brand. Even WESTERN AUTO here is a topic on them. http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/index.php?/topic/86369-western-auto-duck-hunter-camo/?hl=%2Bwestern+%2Bauto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doyler Posted April 8, 2018 Author Share #9 Posted April 8, 2018 I'm not an expert collector but I'd look for things like laundry marks or names that can be traced to a specific sailor, soldier or marine. Unfortunately, every one of those things can be faked so the real answer is that unless you get something like a period photograph where the camo pattern matches exactly, there's no way to be 100% sure, that's just the way it is. IMO that's a reason to be wary of such items and to not over pay for them simply because someone tells you a great "story" behind them. The story may be completely true, it may be partially true but embellished, or it may be 100% false, but the uniform won't really tell you which of those it is. I agree. Very hard to document these type uniforms. Many are typically unmarked as far as rank,serial number,patches,name tapes etc. I do have a a friend who was SF and he wears a commercial pattern suit.Some time will have to ask if I can copy the picture.I don't recall but he may be wearing them State side at Ft.Bragg for training.He started out in SF around 1960-61.Time is fleeting as he is in his upper 80s now. I have a couple different pattern shits and both have the WW2 type 13 Star"burst of glory" buttons.This doesn't mean they are issue but these commercial companies used left over surplus buttons in many cases.Even have a suit with the buttons and at times you can see them in photos from Vietnam wearing the camos with star buttons. As stated many times you have to know the source who had or wore them. Most of the time just buy it for what it is and that's a commercial hunting suit. My purpose here was just to post the suits being worn.Not that they were issued or a government contracted item Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doyler Posted April 8, 2018 Author Share #10 Posted April 8, 2018 Early SEAL TEAM 1 photo Most likely wearing the KAMO brand made suits as they had a style with lower pocket on the shirts Some have upper pockets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lsparks Posted April 9, 2018 Share #11 Posted April 9, 2018 Thanks!!! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Flage Guy Posted April 9, 2018 Share #12 Posted April 9, 2018 Great photos- these were the camo's used in the Bay of Pigs Operation, if I have it right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doyler Posted April 9, 2018 Author Share #13 Posted April 9, 2018 Great photos- these were the camo's used in the Bay of Pigs Operation, if I have it right. I believe so. I recall there was a batch of WW2 USMC or Army camo used by the Cuban exiles too. I use to have some photos but long gone on a dead computer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kammo-man Posted April 9, 2018 Share #14 Posted April 9, 2018 Great shots !!! Kamo brand for sure ! owen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOG RT Mamba Posted March 12, 2020 Share #15 Posted March 12, 2020 Good SEALs photos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikie Posted March 12, 2020 Share #16 Posted March 12, 2020 Interesting photos that I don't recall seeing before. Lots of great old stuff on the forum that bubbles up every so often. Mikie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap Camouflage Pattern I Posted March 18, 2020 Share #17 Posted March 18, 2020 ] Special Forces adviser teaches a Montagnard of the Radai tribe marksmanship at a training camp near Ban me Thout early July 1962. Photo by Horst Faas. I had to crop the image due to forum file size restrictions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodes Posted March 18, 2020 Share #18 Posted March 18, 2020 Very interesting thread.....Bodes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doyler Posted March 18, 2020 Author Share #19 Posted March 18, 2020 Crop.jpg] Special Forces adviser teaches a Montagnard of the Radai tribe marksmanship at a training camp near Ban me Thout early July 1962. Photo by Horst Faas. I had to crop the image due to forum file size restrictions This is a well known photo and note the metal "burst of glory" bottons with stars used on the WW2 hbt clothing.I have a very similar shirt like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodes Posted March 18, 2020 Share #20 Posted March 18, 2020 This is a well known photo and note the metal "burst of glory" bottons with stars used on the WW2 hbt clothing.I have a very similar shirt like this. Looks like mine as well...Waist pockets w/metal "BOG" buttons...Bodes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kammo-man Posted March 30, 2020 Share #21 Posted March 30, 2020 Here’s a kamo brand set with hat shirt is mint pants have a wash in them. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kammo-man Posted March 30, 2020 Share #22 Posted March 30, 2020 Cap to match Always in mismatched print Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kammo-man Posted March 30, 2020 Share #23 Posted March 30, 2020 The 13 star WW2 surplus buttons fresh and black painted Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kammo-man Posted March 30, 2020 Share #24 Posted March 30, 2020 Here’s an advisor set that’s heavily modified Sleeves shortened and arm pocket added Lower pockets removed and chest pockets added. Re tailored for a custom fit Arvn jump wings added Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kammo-man Posted March 30, 2020 Share #25 Posted March 30, 2020 Kamo brand label Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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