rosieres64 Posted April 2, 2018 Share #1 Posted April 2, 2018 Is it possible to identify (good guess) this helmet just by pictures? The heat stamp seems to be worn away. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Quarter Posted April 2, 2018 Share #2 Posted April 2, 2018 Looks like a swivel bail Medic M1 helmet. The liner looks post war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosieres64 Posted April 2, 2018 Author Share #3 Posted April 2, 2018 Looks like a swivel bail Medic M1 helmet. The liner looks post war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosieres64 Posted April 2, 2018 Author Share #4 Posted April 2, 2018 I didn't word this correctly. What I meant to say is can you identify the manufacturer of this helmet from just the picture? The heat stamp is worn away. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manayunkman Posted April 2, 2018 Share #5 Posted April 2, 2018 The sweat band is post war Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosieres64 Posted April 2, 2018 Author Share #6 Posted April 2, 2018 The sweat band is post war Yes, the liner is post war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosieres64 Posted April 2, 2018 Author Share #7 Posted April 2, 2018 The sweat band is post war Yes, the liner is post war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim.rogers1 Posted April 2, 2018 Share #8 Posted April 2, 2018 Not with any accuracy. McCord, Scheuter and Reading-Parrish all had very slight profile differences, but without a visible heat stamp, in my opinion, it is near impossible to determine which. I've seen some helmets where the heat stamps could not be located. The Reading-Parish stamp is on the right side near the chinstrap swivel, instead of at the brim (and thus could be missed). The toughest M1 shells to even date are rear-seam examples with no visible markings. They were pretty indistinguishable from 1944 to the early 1960s. If you are wanting to ID the liner, that is much easier with markings and component types. Yes, it looks like the liner or at least the headband is post war. WW2 suspension was light OD. Very late WW2 and after was a darker OD color. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsbody Posted April 2, 2018 Share #9 Posted April 2, 2018 I didn't word this correctly. What I meant to say is can you identify the manufacturer of this helmet from just the picture? The heat stamp is worn away. Thanks Ooh that's not easy but if I have to hazard a guess (after balancing a McCord and Schlueter shell in front my computer screen ) I would say Schlueter. It seems there is less flare in the rim/visor. Is it a front seam shell? Maybe the spot welds (near the seam) that hold the rim can tell us more. If they are round than that usually means it's a Schlueter. If they are oval than it's a McCord. Rene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosieres64 Posted April 2, 2018 Author Share #10 Posted April 2, 2018 Ooh that's not easy but if I have to hazard a guess (after balancing a McCord and Schlueter shell in front my computer screen ) I would say Schlueter. It seems there is less flare in the rim/visor. Is it a front seam shell? Maybe the spot welds (near the seam) that hold the rim can tell us more. If they are round than that usually means it's a Schlueter. If they are oval than it's a McCord. Rene Yes, front seam, sadly the rim is missing from the front half of the helmet I tried to take a picture but there is too much flash back. The helmet was given to me by a great friend from Belgium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsbody Posted April 3, 2018 Share #11 Posted April 3, 2018 Maybe this can help. In the picture the Schlueter shell is on the left, the McCord is on the right. When you place both shells on a flat surface and look at them from the front you can see that the Schlueter has less flare. Maybe if you put your shell without the liner on a flat surface you can compare it with this photo. (i have to say that both shells in my picture have fixed chinstrap loops) Rene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manayunkman Posted April 3, 2018 Share #12 Posted April 3, 2018 Is it fixed bail or swivel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burning Hazard Posted April 3, 2018 Share #13 Posted April 3, 2018 Looks like a McCord to me Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosieres64 Posted April 4, 2018 Author Share #14 Posted April 4, 2018 Is it fixed bail or swivel? Fixed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manayunkman Posted April 4, 2018 Share #15 Posted April 4, 2018 It looks like a McCord bail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosieres64 Posted April 5, 2018 Author Share #16 Posted April 5, 2018 Is there a consensus as to the manufacturer ? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsbody Posted April 5, 2018 Share #17 Posted April 5, 2018 Unfortunately the pic of the chinstrap loop is a bit fuzzy. These pics show the loops on a Schlueter ( the feet of the loops are more rounded) and a McCord (the feet of the loops are less rounded) Sclhlueter McCord Rene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosieres64 Posted April 6, 2018 Author Share #18 Posted April 6, 2018 Better picture. Looks like a Sclhlueter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsbody Posted April 6, 2018 Share #19 Posted April 6, 2018 Better picture. Looks like a Sclhlueter Having looked at some reference books (especially Pete Oosterman's book) I think it is a McCord based on the feet of the loop and it's more rectangular shape. Rene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lester Green Posted April 10, 2019 Share #20 Posted April 10, 2019 If a M1 helmet has no seam and no marking how does one identify it? Below are links to the pictures. I was told this is a US Army helmet from the Vietnam war. Thanks in advance for your help! https://ibb.co/HdvzjHd https://ibb.co/vsvd5Ft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manayunkman Posted April 10, 2019 Share #21 Posted April 10, 2019 Hello Mr Green, I think that is a Bulgarian helmet from the 1950-60s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lester Green Posted April 10, 2019 Share #22 Posted April 10, 2019 Hello Mr Green, I think that is a Bulgarian helmet from the 1950-60s. Interesting, I see no markings anywhere on the helmet. What clues are there to it being Bulgarian? Thanks for the quick response! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lester Green Posted April 10, 2019 Share #23 Posted April 10, 2019 Manayunkman, you pointed me in the right direction. I believe the helmet is a Yugoslavian M59/85. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manayunkman Posted April 10, 2019 Share #24 Posted April 10, 2019 Glad you solved your dilema. What clued me in to the helmet was it's shape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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