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I bought this helmet a year ago and i'm still wondering if i'm right...

A long time ago i saw a picture on Ebay of Rangers in Anzio/Italy wearing such helm with the same marking...but i didn't copy the picture because how big is the chance to have such helmet but well....i better did copy it.

 

Can anyone give more information about the Decal ? ( possible with a picture )

There might be gaspaint on it as it isnt 100% green...i see shades of red/brown on it.

 

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Hi, I think it's not a particular repart marking but it's possible "V" was for "Victory"!

That could be possible but im still relying on the image i saw on ebay with the identical marking , maybe it was the same helmet as in the auction that included the picture...who knows. If anyone owns an image book of Rangers or the infantry divisions in Anzio...please help!

" You can manufacture weapons and you can purchase ammunition,

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U.S. 1st Infantry Division

 

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Rangers en route to Anzio - Jan 44

I have also seen "H" and "Z" on ranger helmets at Anzio.

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Just a thought...

 

From Army infantry point of view, what would have been the 3 MOST important forward elements of an assault at a place like Anzio? - SO important to the assault that the men coming behind them would NEED to know exactly where the "V, H and Z guys" were at all times (including at night)....

 

Total speculation based on the above photo, it appears that 3 "V guys" are in very serious briefing mode with somebody holding a map... suggesting to me that they were going to play some major major part in that action, the success of which would depend somehow on WHERE they ended up on the battlefield, because they needed to be seen from the rear?

 

I have no idea, myself.

 

I've never been part of an infantry assault, or any other kind of infantry anything for that matter. think.gif

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Thanks for the pic! So i was right considering the Rangers part....they did wear such markings! i've seen another picture when they were marching inland of Anzio but this is sufficient enough! T H A N K S

" You can manufacture weapons and you can purchase ammunition,

But you can't buy valor and you can't pull heroes off an assembly line ".

 

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U.S. 1st Infantry Division

 

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I had not seen these markings before... and here I thought I knew it all already. ;) Note to all experts out there: You will never know it all so, always remain a student of militaria and don't allow yourself to wear the moniker of "Expert". That way you don't have to get mad at anyone who disagrees with you when your wrong.

 

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I've also seen "V", "H" and "Z"'s on Rangers helmets at Anzio. Its probably as simple as the reason the U.S. 7th Infantry Regiment of the U.S. 3rd Infantry Division had "Clubs", Spades" and Hearts" its was a way to identify which battalion was which and where they were located in conjunction with the position of their objective on the field of battle.

 

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It does look like it. Though the bottom of the "V" is under the blue band.

 

Mike

does the helmet in the first post have a bluey band round it like a USN helmet or has it been cleaned up and thats like as far as they got, just thinking out loud

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I've also seen "V", "H" and "Z"'s on Rangers helmets at Anzio. Its probably as simple as the reason the U.S. 7th Infantry Regiment of the U.S. 3rd Infantry Division had "Clubs", Spades" and Hearts" its was a way to identify which battalion was which and where they were located in conjunction with the position of their objective on the field of battle.

 

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FRISCAN

Excellent.

 

So, the letters meant something about units, not jobs within units (like the red cross, chaplain's cross, or rank)...

 

In other words, from the rear, you could see where the "V" guys (as one example) were in relation to the overall assault plan.

 

Do you think ALL members of the "V" unit would haver had that painted on their helmet, or just some? If so, any ones in particular? Radio guys or someone?

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Hey all ,

 

The helmet does not have a blue band under the V mark. And if it was navy style i would have noticed though.

Thanks for the information and positive comments!

" You can manufacture weapons and you can purchase ammunition,

But you can't buy valor and you can't pull heroes off an assembly line ".

 

-Sergeant John B. Ellery-

U.S. 1st Infantry Division

 

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Verry interesting pictures ! Thank you for sharing those

" You can manufacture weapons and you can purchase ammunition,

But you can't buy valor and you can't pull heroes off an assembly line ".

 

-Sergeant John B. Ellery-

U.S. 1st Infantry Division

 

Hang Tough my friend!

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EasyRed:

 

The "V" insignia on your helmet perhaps belongs to the Engineer Battalion of 3rd Infantry Division. See Militaria Magazine # 190.

 

Regards.

 

Cesar.

Hi Cesar , Thanks for your information !

I hope someone who posesses that magazine could post a picture ? I never bought that magazine :pinch:

" You can manufacture weapons and you can purchase ammunition,

But you can't buy valor and you can't pull heroes off an assembly line ".

 

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U.S. 1st Infantry Division

 

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Thanks !

 

I will add better pictures of the helmet to this topic, i made some a while ago for my personal album.

 

This helmet seems to come from the Bergstein area , near the Hurtgenwald. A place where the Rangers fought! ( Thanks to forum member Dogface44 )

 

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" You can manufacture weapons and you can purchase ammunition,

But you can't buy valor and you can't pull heroes off an assembly line ".

 

-Sergeant John B. Ellery-

U.S. 1st Infantry Division

 

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If it is a ranger helmet, would they have had the orange diamond previously? It almost looks like a very faint orange diamond underneath that, or is that just rust staining in hand?

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