ASMIC2971 Posted July 24, 2009 Share #51 Posted July 24, 2009 The F-word in WW2??? Its possible, I always thought of it as a Vietnam era word Respectfully, PFC Kitt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASMIC2971 Posted July 24, 2009 Share #52 Posted July 24, 2009 Another trip that started in Bütgenbach and ended in the eiffel. Duty first! Eiffel time... We tried a forest where a mortar section of the 99th inf was situated and here is the result. Collar disc, mortar squad 60mm Mortar grenades discoved in a big foxhole...we reported them! Where is the 1st ID monument that you took pictures of, I was at henri-Chappele(SP?) in 2006 and I am pretty sure we stopped at this monument since it looks strangely familiar. my other computer crashed with my pictures on it so I will have to look for the CD. Respectfully, PFC Kitt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasyRed1944 Posted July 24, 2009 Author Share #53 Posted July 24, 2009 Hi , You can find it on the road between Bütgenbach and Büllingen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasyRed1944 Posted July 24, 2009 Author Share #54 Posted July 24, 2009 Its possible, I always thought of it as a Vietnam era word Respectfully, PFC Kitt Yes that could be although you can't tell me , out of many! Americans in world war 2, not a single one used the F word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake_E Posted July 24, 2009 Share #55 Posted July 24, 2009 Pretty good haul Robin, some great stuff. LOL, i love the tree Of course they used that word, plenty of wwii vets have admitted to letting an F bomb fly, they were soldiers after all. Totally granted, it wasn't used anywhere even near as much as band of brothers and private ryan would have you believe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASMIC2971 Posted July 24, 2009 Share #56 Posted July 24, 2009 Pretty good haul Robin, some great stuff. LOL, i love the tree Of course they used that word, plenty of wwii vets have admitted to letting an F bomb fly, they were soldiers after all. Totally granted, it wasn't used anywhere even near as much as band of brothers and private ryan would have you believe Dead on - that was what I was trying to say but the words were not coming! Respectfully, PFC Kitt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt.Confederacy Posted July 24, 2009 Share #57 Posted July 24, 2009 The F-word in WW2??? This reminds me of a surprising piece of WWI footage I saw once with no sound. US soldiers were coming down a gangplank from a troop ship to land on French soil. The water was very choppy, and the fellows were getting tossed about a bit. Well, one guy lost the grip on his duffle bag and lost it in the drink about 50 feet below. Needless to say, all of the items were probably ruined even if he could get them back. Everyone around him was laughing, and he mouthed the F-word very clearly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicolas75 Posted July 24, 2009 Share #58 Posted July 24, 2009 wonderfull finds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeeper704 Posted July 25, 2009 Share #59 Posted July 25, 2009 You have a BRO Monument both near Henri-Chapelle and in the Bütgenbach area. When you drive to the American Cemetery (which is actually in Hombourg, not Henri-Chapelle), you can spot it on the major road leading to the village. Erwin Where is the 1st ID monument that you took pictures of, I was at henri-Chappele(SP?) in 2006 and I am pretty sure we stopped at this monument since it looks strangely familiar. my other computer crashed with my pictures on it so I will have to look for the CD.Respectfully, PFC Kitt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasyRed1944 Posted July 25, 2009 Author Share #60 Posted July 25, 2009 I decided to make some pictures of most of my relics. 95% are found by me , some others are traded or obtained. You can see a piece of camo parachute, that one was found in Holland by a friend of me. The relics will point itself out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake_E Posted July 25, 2009 Share #61 Posted July 25, 2009 Dang, HEAPS of stuff mate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manchu Warrior Posted July 26, 2009 Share #62 Posted July 26, 2009 At the end of our trip our eyes catched some writings on a tree...it was a rare moment! USA 10/9/44 F*ck Hitler And some names ? US flag with USA under it Cliff J ....... .. .......... Ohio Toledo Ohio Stars and stripes USA The F word has been around for a very long time but I have my doubts about that tree. If the words in that tree were carved 65 years ago they would be all spread out and you would not be able to read it. Simply because the tree would have grown quite a bit in the more then six decades since the carving was done. I have seen it myself. A few years ago I learned that a wooded area I use to run around as a kid was going to be done away with so a school could be built. So, I went back and found the old trees we had carved our names in and after only twenty or twenty fives years I could barely read what we had carved because they spread out as the tree grew and the tree also healed itself. With that said. I am no tree expert but I believe those trees were carved long after the war ended and most likely no more then ten or fifteen years ago. Just my two cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK101 Posted July 27, 2009 Share #63 Posted July 27, 2009 If the words in that tree were carved 65 years ago they would be all spread out and you would not be able to read it. It really depends on the type of tree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manchu Warrior Posted July 27, 2009 Share #64 Posted July 27, 2009 It really depends on the type of tree. That makes sense. :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasyRed1944 Posted July 27, 2009 Author Share #65 Posted July 27, 2009 That makes sense. :thumbsup: Then again..who would spend all that energy in carving a tree 3km deep in the woods, nowhere near a road.. There were other trees with the same carvings ,but this was the best readable...i think its possible but i am not an expert. We'll see if we can find those names back, that will clear it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeeper704 Posted July 27, 2009 Share #66 Posted July 27, 2009 I know of places in the Luxembourg Ardennes where you see GI names carved in the trees (Wasserbillig area being one). They only fade away at a very very slow rate. Some are readable, others not anymore. Erwin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limestone Posted July 27, 2009 Share #67 Posted July 27, 2009 Some are readable, others not anymore. Agree with you. I know about some good examples in Normandy. Just depends on kind of curving and trees... Yannick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted July 27, 2009 Share #68 Posted July 27, 2009 Very nice relics :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MFortney Posted August 2, 2009 Share #69 Posted August 2, 2009 Very nice finds! Thanks for sharing them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
man860 Posted August 3, 2009 Share #70 Posted August 3, 2009 Great finds and great display! :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horsa Posted August 6, 2009 Share #71 Posted August 6, 2009 You got to be pretty brave to dig that stuff up. It's very dangerous. I think I read where hundreds of Europeans have been killed since WW2 by leftover UXBs. Several years back a British golfer set off a UXB when he pulled the club over it. I think he was injured but not killed. Even Civil War ordnance can be dangerous. A relic-hunter in Richmond who had defused hundreds of shells was recently killed by one, and a Georgia dealer was badly inured doing a defusal. I once saw a 7 inch James projectile dug up from the front slope of a Civil War Fort. As I walked over to examine it a friend began knocking the rust off with the shovel. I told him he was crazy, that it might be fused, and that James shells used a percussion fuse. Sure enough, he found it as I yelled told you...from a good distance. Most people don't understand that fusing of ordnance has been relatively sophisticated for many years. Even during the CW some concussion fuses were used, and many contact types. I'd be especially concerned about some of the ordnance used in the Ardennes. If memory serves the US Army used a large number of proximity-fused shells that devastated many attacking German formations. If you want to get an approximate idea of how dangerous ordnance was/is, watch the BBC series "Danger UXB." It will keep you on the edge of your seat, and might give you pause about what you dig up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasyRed1944 Posted August 6, 2009 Author Share #72 Posted August 6, 2009 You got to be pretty brave to dig that stuff up. It's very dangerous. I think I read where hundreds of Europeans have been killed since WW2 by leftover UXBs. Several years back a British golfer set off a UXB when he pulled the club over it. I think he was injured but not killed. Even Civil War ordnance can be dangerous. A relic-hunter in Richmond who had defused hundreds of shells was recently killed by one, and a Georgia dealer was badly inured doing a defusal. I once saw a 7 inch James projectile dug up from the front slope of a Civil War Fort. As I walked over to examine it a friend began knocking the rust off with the shovel. I told him he was crazy, that it might be fused, and that James shells used a percussion fuse. Sure enough, he found it as I yelled told you...from a good distance. Most people don't understand that fusing of ordnance has been relatively sophisticated for many years. Even during the CW some concussion fuses were used, and many contact types. I'd be especially concerned about some of the ordnance used in the Ardennes. If memory serves the US Army used a large number of proximity-fused shells that devastated many attacking German formations. If you want to get an approximate idea of how dangerous ordnance was/is, watch the BBC series "Danger UXB." It will keep you on the edge of your seat, and might give you pause about what you dig up. I totally understand , but it's not that we know what we will dig up...our scanners are not that sophisticated yet. If a grenade rolls up with a heap of dirt...what can i do then.. It is better to dig it up and report it , so they can pick it up so it can't harm other people anymore. This is dangerous yeah, but its not our choice to uncover it, we only put those away for safety of others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STALAGLUFT1 Posted August 6, 2009 Share #73 Posted August 6, 2009 Great stuff! I always wanted to go metal detecting in Europe. Congrats. Regards, Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEAST Posted August 6, 2009 Share #74 Posted August 6, 2009 Very nice finds! How did you find the clothing? Was there any metal on them so you were able to detect them or was it just digging in the areas that you found other items? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasyRed1944 Posted August 6, 2009 Author Share #75 Posted August 6, 2009 Very nice finds! How did you find the clothing? Was there any metal on them so you were able to detect them or was it just digging in the areas that you found other items? I can't recall what we found with it , but i think some crappy iron, maybe a buckle..and when we started digging there came clothing out , we dug it 0.50 meter deep and we found LOTS of pants and shirt as you can see . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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