bigred1 Posted December 31, 2017 Share #1 Posted December 31, 2017 all the pics i have. thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundance Posted December 31, 2017 Share #2 Posted December 31, 2017 I like the "been there done that" look. I take it that you own or bought this. Does it go all the way into the scabbard with that bent scabbard tip? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKIPH Posted December 31, 2017 Share #3 Posted December 31, 2017 Good question! Does it fit in the scabbard? The knife looks good to me! SKIP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TALLYHO Posted December 31, 2017 Share #4 Posted December 31, 2017 Sundance, It is currently listed on eBay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwnorma Posted January 1, 2018 Share #5 Posted January 1, 2018 Hmmmm, not sure about this one. It seems the font for the "U.S. 1918" is not correct for an Au Lion knife. For the Au Lion, the "U.S. 1918" should be centered and not shifted up as it is on this example and should be somewhat larger. What I believe I see is a correct blade, nut, and scabbard for an Au Lion knife, assembled with a reproduction handle. Exercise caution. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigred1 Posted January 1, 2018 Author Share #6 Posted January 1, 2018 Hmmmm, not sure about this one. It seems the font for the "U.S. 1918" is not correct for an Au Lion knife. For the Au Lion, the "U.S. 1918" should be centered and not shifted up as it is on this example and should be somewhat larger. What I believe I see is a correct blade, nut, and scabbard for an Au Lion knife, assembled with a reproduction handle. Exercise caution. Chris i didn't pay attention to the centering but i did notice that the font was somewhat off. also, the blade is at an angle with the handle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
militariaone Posted January 1, 2018 Share #7 Posted January 1, 2018 Greetings all, It is a rehandled piece (i.e. fake handle), (as Chris has noted) discussed here http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/showthread.php?t=897846 It is a pieced together affair a real blade and scabbard paired with a reproduction handle. V/r Lance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRE66 Posted January 1, 2018 Share #8 Posted January 1, 2018 The seller would do better with selling the parts and fake handle separately. Not implying there is any deception but buyers for such things are generally informed folks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKIPH Posted January 1, 2018 Share #9 Posted January 1, 2018 Something that hasn't been brought up is that Au Lion made two types of handles. Ones with grooves on the top edges of the MK1, and others w/o the groove. I also believe the font on the stamp is slightly different. Not arguing the point whether the handle is legit or not, the blade was without question correct. Based upon the first picture, hard for me to tell. Lance has more experience w/ these than me. On another note, I was informed years ago that veterans were allowed to bring home MK1 trench knives, minus the handle, I have actually seen these. So it would make sense for someone to replace it with a repro. SKIP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cromwell Posted January 1, 2018 Share #10 Posted January 1, 2018 1960s Japanese handle...maybe spanish parts cant see pics well enough to say...scabbard ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
militariaone Posted January 1, 2018 Share #11 Posted January 1, 2018 Greetings all, The knife/scabbard combo (with another repro handle) was posted in the link I shared earlier. Then, the knife/scabbard combo (sporting it's current handle) showed up for sale on that same forum. Then it (& its sales ad) was removed by the seller. Now it's on eBay. The first repro handle was a better reproduction than the one it is currently sporting. Odd to see this knife showing up repeatedly in different guises. Sure, the seller has no idea of what they are doing V/r Lance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKIPH Posted January 1, 2018 Share #12 Posted January 1, 2018 Thanks Lance! Interesting tale of the recurring MK1. SKIP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabnatcyr Posted January 2, 2018 Share #13 Posted January 2, 2018 HELLO actually 2 sort of handle for my 2 copies the marking is more or less well mark it comes from the process of manufacture: sand casting seems t he Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabnatcyr Posted January 2, 2018 Share #14 Posted January 2, 2018 hello Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
militariaone Posted January 5, 2018 Share #15 Posted January 5, 2018 Greetings all, Well, the knife in question just sold for a BIN of $500.00. I believe the buyer must have viewed the 30+ watchers following the auction and misread folks gathered to watch a train-wreck with other interested buyers. The buyer pulled the trigger thinking they were going to beat the faux crowd; instead, it was they that got snookered. V/r Lance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwnorma Posted January 5, 2018 Share #16 Posted January 5, 2018 Lance, Lets hope that the buyer had a loose Au Lion handle laying around for years and wants to put all the pieces to right... Probably not though. Been following WW1 militaria since the 1970s. There has been a definite uptick in "casual" WW1 collecting with the approach of the Centennial of the end of the war. Unfortunately there is a lot of outright fake WW1 material on the various auctions (that a few years ago would have remained unsold lots) going for near collector prices... Somebody is getting burned. It is my hope that many of them eventually find their way here. There aren't many better places for an honest discussion about militaria. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
militariaone Posted January 6, 2018 Share #17 Posted January 6, 2018 Lance, Lets hope that the buyer had a loose Au Lion handle laying around for years and wants to put all the pieces to right... Probably not though. Been following WW1 militaria since the 1970s. There has been a definite uptick in "casual" WW1 collecting with the approach of the Centennial of the end of the war. Unfortunately there is a lot of outright fake WW1 material on the various auctions (that a few years ago would have remained unsold lots) going for near collector prices... Somebody is getting burned. It is my hope that many of them eventually find their way here. There aren't many better places for an honest discussion about militaria. Chris I concur wholeheartedly, Chris. V/r Lance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SARGE Posted January 6, 2018 Share #18 Posted January 6, 2018 'Unfortunately there is a lot of outright fake WW1 material on the various auctions (that a few years ago would have remained unsold lots) going for near collector prices... Somebody is getting burned. It is my hope that many of them eventually find their way here. There aren't many better places for an honest discussion about militaria. Chris" I also agree with Chris and Lance. While it is very helpful for collectors to handle and examine original material it is probably more helpful to handle and discuss fakes. Knowing what is right and wrong on\\with an edged weapon (or anything else) can save us money in the long run. Buy the books, go to shows and handle items, and talk to other dealers and collectors. That is why we have this US Militaria Forum. It is meant to be a place for these discussions. We can all learn and we do learn from our mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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