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USN / USS Apache ATF-67. Japanese-made Penguin. I failed to identify the insignia with the globe and the lightning bolt. It’s similar to, but not identical with the NETCOM / 9th Army Signal Command (972nd Signal Service Company; 972nd Signal Service Battalion) insignia.

 

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7 hours ago, AlexeiK said:

USN / USS Apache ATF-67. Japanese-made Penguin. I failed to identify the insignia with the globe and the lightning bolt. It’s similar to, but not identical with the NETCOM / 9th Army Signal Command (972nd Signal Service Company; 972nd Signal Service Battalion) insignia.

 

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Interesting !?!? Not what I would expect to see on a USS Apache lighter. Post it over on the "Can You ID?" page.

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Someone may have messed with that one...

 

USS APACHE (ATF-67) Penguin Lighter with insignia

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...and my other USS APACHE (ATF-67) lighter, with the older insignia made by ROTHCO Japan

 

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16 hours ago, AlexeiK said:

USN / USS Apache ATF-67. Japanese-made Penguin. I failed to identify the insignia with the globe and the lightning bolt. It’s similar to, but not identical with the NETCOM / 9th Army Signal Command (972nd Signal Service Company; 972nd Signal Service Battalion) insignia.

 

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Asked about the insignia in "UNKNOWN, CAN YOU IDENTIFY?".

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USN / USS Ticonderoga (CV 14 / CVA 14 / CVS 14), “In mare - in caelestis. Guardian of freedom”. Japanese-made Marksman. She was commissioned 1944 – Decommissioned 1973. Any ideas about dating?

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USN / Fleet Air Reconnaissance Squadron Two (VQ-2) "Batmen". NAS Rota, Spain (Det Alpha: Cubi Point, PI / Det Bravo: Danang AB, RVN). WV-2Q (EC-121M) A3D-2Q (EA-3B). Japanese-made "Vulcan".

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USN / USS Saint Francis River (LSMR-525) "Rocket Rainmaker". Commissioned: 1945. Stricken: 1970. Korean War & RVN 1966-1969. Japanese-made1967 "Konwal Super".

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4 hours ago, yokota57 said:

 Japanese-made1967 "Konwal Super".

Yokota:

 

Great stuff, as is always the case from you.   How did you determine that this Konwal lighter was from 1967?  I am always trying to learn more about these lighters.

 

Regards,

Charlie

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29 minutes ago, Charlie Flick said:

Yokota:

 

Great stuff, as is always the case from you.   How did you determine that this Konwal lighter was from 1967?  I am always trying to learn more about these lighters.

 

Regards,

Charlie

Thanks for the inquiry. At some point around 1964-1965 "Konwal" began adding a single digit on the right-hand side of their base stamp. It is presumed by me and other collectors to indicate the last digit of the year the lighter was produced. Korean-War era and up to the early '60s "Konwals" are devoid of the digit. There may be written records on Japanese-made lighter base stamps out there, but I've never run across them. On "Penguins" the "19531" and "19571" marks are presumed to be more of a patent or design indicator as they are found on Korean-war and up into the '60s examples. On "Vulcans" (and all the other makes) I go by the period that the Squadrons/Units/Ships were active, and the manufacturers address to narrow it down. I've noticed that the oldest "Vulcans" have the "115 Masonic Bldg Tokyo" as the address. The Sqdns/Units/Ships lighters with that address correspond to being active during and just after the Korean War. I have approximately 70 different Japanese lighter manufacturers in my collection, so I've only touched on the most common makers. I wish some hard evidence from other collectors and or written sources would surface. There must be Japanese lighter collectors out there with way more knowledge than I have. I've attached a pic of the digit "7" LSMR-525 base stamp for you. Keep the questions coming and Happy New Year! Charles 

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My Quapaws...

 

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USS QUAPAW (ATF-110) cruising off of Oahu, homeport Alpha Docks, Pearl Harbor Naval Station

Note the SERVRON 5 shield on the bridge wing above

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USS QUAPAW (ATF-110)

DEEDS NOT WORDS

Three war Abnaki class Fleet Tug in service 1944 to 1985

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PRINCE ROCKY

 

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This one belonged to a fellow junk boat salvor

Penguin, Tokyo Japan

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Still partially covered with verdigris from many WESTPAC cruises

 

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FACTO NON VERBA - DEEDS NOT WORDS

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FLEET AIR SERVICE SQUADRON (FASRON) 117

Naval Air Station Barbers Point, Oahu T.H.

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WELLINGTON, Tokyo, Japan

 

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STANAVFORLANT

Standing Naval Forces Atlantic (NATO)

Flagship - USS LUCE (DDG-38)

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1979 full size Zippo high chrome

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Yokota:

 

Thanks for the explanation on the Konwal dating.  That makes good sense to me.

 

I have a number of the Japanese lighters and have never found any reliable source of info on them, except here!

 

Regards,

Charlie

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USN / Patrol Squadron 49 (VP-49). NAS Norfolk, VA / NAS Bermuda 1948-1963. PBM / P5M-1/2. Japanese-made "Vulcan".

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USN / US Navy Headquarters Support Activity Saigon. July 1962-May 1966. Japanese-made "Coronet Rocky".

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USN / USS Pueblo (AGER-2). Attacked and captured by North Korea while engaged in electronic intelligence gathering. 23 January,1968. (Extensive information on the "Pueblo Incident" is available in print and online). 1967 Japanese-made "Konwal Super".

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Nice USS PUEBLO lighter.  Just a heads up, CDR Bucher was invited as a keynote speaker at many USN reunions and events in his later years, including my Salvage Association.  He had a bunch of these which were made for his ship but never delivered before the seizure, and he later acquired them and would give these lighters to a few of the board members when he gave speeches.

 

There ya go...

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4 hours ago, yokota57 said:

USN / USS Pueblo (AGER-2). Attacked and captured by North Korea while engaged in electronic intelligence gathering. 23 January,1968. (Extensive information on the "Pueblo Incident" is available in print and online). 1967 Japanese-made "Konwal Super".

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USS Pueblo / 1967 "Konwal" base stamp. (*digit "7" on the right)

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Wow ! History in your hand. Nice. I remember from a book on the event, the Pueblo’s “theme” music  was “The Lonely Bull”, by Herb Albert. They would pipe it over the 1MC whenever they got underway.

Rob

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USN / USS Currituck (AV-7) "WESTPAC Cruise 1966-1967". Currituck-Class Seaplane Tender. Commissioned: 1944 Decommissioned: 1967. Japanese-made 1967 "Konwal Super".

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USN / VF-24 (2d) "Corsairs". F9F-6 "Cougar" (USS Yorktown CVA-10 1953-1954 / USS Essex CVA-9 1954-1955). Japanese-made "Wellington".

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USN / Air Development Squadron Five (VX-5) "Vampires". 1951-1993. NAS Moffett Field, CA / NAF China Lake, CA. Japanese-made "Vulcan".

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USN / USS Intrepid (CVA-11). Essex-Class. Commissioned:1943 Decommissioned:1974. USA-made "Bowers" (Kalamazoo, Michigan).

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1 hour ago, yokota57 said:

USN / USS Intrepid (CVA-11). Essex-Class. Commissioned:1943 Decommissioned:1974. USA-made "Bowers" (Kalamazoo, Michigan).

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**Correction: This one is actually made by "Brown & Bigelow" out of Minneapolis, MN. / Not a "Bowers".

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