lugi45 Posted September 27, 2017 Share #1 Posted September 27, 2017 Hello all, are there any 70th Division experts out there? This fixed bail is very early with a heat stamp of 85B. The liner is an early Westinghouse. On the liner is the remnants of a 70th Division emblem and the name Cash. On the suspension in the liner is written Cash and JSC 6153. JSC 6153 is also written on the inside of the leather liner chinstrap. Could anyone help find information on Mr. Cash? This helmet displays very well and has a great look to it. Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yp221 Posted September 27, 2017 Share #2 Posted September 27, 2017 This looks like your guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yp221 Posted September 27, 2017 Share #3 Posted September 27, 2017 Disregard. The initials don't match up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raddock Posted September 27, 2017 Share #4 Posted September 27, 2017 Great looking one, hope you track down you're man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stealthytyler Posted September 27, 2017 Share #5 Posted September 27, 2017 Great lid. Is the shell original to the liner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lugi45 Posted September 27, 2017 Author Share #6 Posted September 27, 2017 Thanks! I don't have any nice painted M1s or anything but I do have a few nice plain ones! Sent from my SM-G935V using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lugi45 Posted September 27, 2017 Author Share #7 Posted September 27, 2017 Disregard. The initials don't match up.I got excited for a moment! Thanks for trying though Sent from my SM-G935V using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lugi45 Posted September 27, 2017 Author Share #8 Posted September 27, 2017 Great lid. Is the shell original to the liner? I'm not entirely sure. There is rust inside the shell but its not on the liner so I don't know. Might be a put together set but they go together very well. The shell itself has no markings anywhere. Sent from my SM-G935V using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinS Posted October 1, 2017 Share #9 Posted October 1, 2017 Did a quick search but couldn't come up with a matching GI.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lugi45 Posted October 1, 2017 Author Share #10 Posted October 1, 2017 Did a quick search but couldn't come up with a matching GI..Well thanks for trying! Sent from my SM-G935V using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lugi45 Posted October 6, 2017 Author Share #11 Posted October 6, 2017 So I just searched the WWII memorial website and found this. The initials match up and so do the last 4. Thinking this may be him. Sent from my SM-G935V using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stealthytyler Posted October 10, 2017 Share #12 Posted October 10, 2017 So I just searched the WWII memorial website and found this. The initials match up and so do the last 4. Thinking this may be him. Sent from my SM-G935V using Tapatalk That's probably not him. His grave says he was Cavalry. The 70th ID was Infantry. His death was December 14th 1944 at which time the 70th was just arriving in-country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lugi45 Posted October 12, 2017 Author Share #13 Posted October 12, 2017 That's probably not him. His grave says he was Cavalry. The 70th ID was Infantry. His death was December 14th 1944 at which time the 70th was just arriving in-country.Is it possible that he left the 70th before and transferred to the cavalry? I don't know what else it could be. I'm at a dead end if not. I don't know how else to research it. Sent from my SM-G935V using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henrikson1487 Posted October 12, 2017 Share #14 Posted October 12, 2017 Habe you tried the 70ths website? There is pleny of information and photos to sift through. http://www.trailblazersww2.org/home.htm This photo is off their sight, similar helmet liner markings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stealthytyler Posted October 12, 2017 Share #15 Posted October 12, 2017 Is it possible that he left the 70th before and transferred to the cavalry? I don't know what else it could be. I'm at a dead end if not. I don't know how else to research it. Sent from my SM-G935V using Tapatalk Im not sure. I guess anything is a possibility. But I thought the 70th consisted of north western soldiers? This guys was from Oklahoma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stealthytyler Posted October 12, 2017 Share #16 Posted October 12, 2017 Is that green paint over the axe or the white axe paint chipping away? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lugi45 Posted October 13, 2017 Author Share #17 Posted October 13, 2017 Habe you tried the 70ths website? There is pleny of information and photos to sift through. http://www.trailblazersww2.org/home.htm This photo is off their sight, similar helmet liner markings. I looked on the website and never saw anything Sent from my SM-G935V using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lugi45 Posted October 13, 2017 Author Share #18 Posted October 13, 2017 Is that green paint over the axe or the white axe paint chipping away? I think white paint chipping away. I'll look closer when I get home. Sent from my SM-G935V using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMinistryOfAviation Posted October 16, 2017 Share #19 Posted October 16, 2017 Sure does seem like James S Cash is the closest bet; but the points Tyler brings up are definitely fair. Hope you're able to sort this one out cause its a fantastic helmet! -Jeremy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lugi45 Posted October 16, 2017 Author Share #20 Posted October 16, 2017 Sure does seem like James S Cash is the closest bet; but the points Tyler brings up are definitely fair. Hope you're able to sort this one out cause its a fantastic helmet! -Jeremy Yeah he has a good point so I don't know. Only match I could find with the last 4 and the initials. Sent from my SM-G935V using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lugi45 Posted October 16, 2017 Author Share #21 Posted October 16, 2017 Is that green paint over the axe or the white axe paint chipping away? It is definitely white paint chipping away. The paint that is chipping away is much thicker than the paint on the last name. Sent from my SM-G935V using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lugi45 Posted November 16, 2017 Author Share #22 Posted November 16, 2017 I did some research on James S. Cash. On the 1940 census he was listed as "Jimmy". I just discovered "Jim Cash 6153" written on the inside of the leather chinstrap and "Jim Cash" written on the sweatband. I had not noticed them before. He was listed as being a radio operator in the 83rd Reconnaissance Troop. I have no idea why this helmet would be marked with a 70th Division axe head but the numbers and name match up to this individual. He died 14 Dec 1944 as a result of wounds. Sent from my SM-G935V using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stealthytyler Posted November 16, 2017 Share #23 Posted November 16, 2017 The 70th was on their way to France during the time of this mans death. Doesn't sound like the right guy to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lugi45 Posted November 21, 2017 Author Share #24 Posted November 21, 2017 The 70th was on their way to France during the time of this mans death. Doesn't sound like the right guy to me.At this point I am disregarding any ties to the 70th. I don't know how the axe head got on there but I've looked through every 70th ID unit roster I could find and no Cash with the last four digits of 6153 was there. I haven't found another JS Cash with 6153 anywhere in his service number. This helmet came with no provenance and was pretty cheap so I don't believe it to be faked. There was no insane profit for the seller. There was no story sold with it. I may never know for sure but until another Jim Cash comes up I'll believe I found the man who wore this helmet at one time. Sent from my SM-G935V using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinS Posted November 22, 2017 Share #25 Posted November 22, 2017 The 70th rosters are incomplete... Most of the rosters that are available are from post war Unit Histories. Some guys only did their basic training in the 70th Div and went overseas with other units in the ETO/PTO.. The painted liners were only worn during their basic training in the States. I've got a 276th IR, 70th Div liner and I can't track the original owner too.. Perhaps we own the liners of two guys who went overseas with other units.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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