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Hi all,
Here is a Wing for the Quiet Birdmen Club.It is an inch long and is Sterling Silver with an enameled shield bearing the initials "QB".Sellers pics.

 

 

Here is some Wiki info about this secretive Club:


Quiet Birdmen
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The Quiet Birdmen is a secretive club in the United States for male aviators. Founded in 1921 by World War I pilots, the organization meets in various locations, never announced to the public. Members, called QBs, must be invited to join, and they join for life. Today, the club's membership, organized into regional "hangars", is made up primarily of retired airline, military and freight pilots, as well as a few astronauts.It is also known as ye Anciente and Secret Order of Quiet Birdmen.

 

 

History
In France in November 1919, a group of World War I aviators started a drinking club called "The American Flying Club", and re-convened in New York City only to be barred from their clubhouse by the bailiff. In January 1921, a subset of that group, some ten to twenty aviators, began meeting fairly regularly on Monday nights in New York City at Marta, an Italian restaurant located at 75 Washington Place in the Greenwich Village neighborhood. Harold Hersey, the editor of Aces High magazine, ironically called the group the Quiet Birdmen because they were so boisterous.At one meeting, reporter Steve Hannigan noticed the jocular group, and visited again the next week, bringing a sketch artist. Hannigan wrote up a feature story about the group, accompanied by a sketch—the first public information about the group. The attendees that night were Harry Bruno, S. H. MacKeon, Wallace James, Richard R. "Dick" Blythe, Earle D. Osborn, Charles S. "Casey" Jones, Harold T. "Slim" Lewis, Ernest Loftquis, Paul G. Zimmerman, Donald Mcllhenny, Ladislas d'Orcy, Richard H. DePew Jr, George Hubbard, R. B. C. Noorduyn, John (Jack) Bishop and J. E. Whitbeck. Because the group grew too large,or because of the noise bothering other patrons, the management at Marta stopped them from meeting there. Subsequent meetings were held in a different location each time, often a restaurant. Membership in the 1920s cost one dollar and lasted until death.In the 1920s the emblem of the club was created: a blue shield with the letters QB in silver, the shield flanked by silver wings. In 1938, the club's meetings settled into the building owned by the Architectural League of New York.
Harvey Mummert, vice president and chief engineer of Mercury Aircraft, has been credited as co-founder of the club.Early members Bruno and Blythe started a public relations firm in 1923 and in 1927 they became known for promoting Charles Lindbergh's solo trans-Atlantic flight.Lindbergh was made a member of the Quiet Birdmen. Unusually, a former combat foe was invited to join the club: Ernst Udet, the highest-scoring German flying ace to survive World War I. Known as a fun-loving playboy, Udet performed aerobatics at the National Air Races in Cleveland in 1931 and '32, Los Angeles in '33, and again in Cleveland in '38. While visiting the U.S., Udet befriended Lindbergh, Eddie Rickenbacker,Jimmy Doolittle, Wiley Post, Roscoe Turner and other American QBs.
Outside of New York, other Quiet Birdmen regional groups, or hangars, were formed. Before 1938, the club had a strict agreement against having a constitution, by-laws, dues, assessments, or club officers. No business was to be conducted, and no sales. Only male aviators were allowed to join, not female aviators or "Keewees" (non-flyers).At the Cleveland Air Races in 1938, the QBs adopted a slightly more formal arrangement: a Board of Governors would be composed of one member from each hangar, and this board would choose an Executive Committee. Each regional hangar was to select a Key Man to handle club business. A year later, the group settled upon a QB Code of Procedure which described the structure of the club. During World War II in London, England, a temporary hangar was formed in 1943 for club members posted to the UK.The club's national Code of Procedure was modified again in 1953.
In addition to the still existing New York Hangar, other early Hangars, originally called "leantos" to the original New York Hangar, had been formed. Currently Hangars are formed independently and exist in Washington DC, Cleveland, Atlantic City, Wayne, San Francisco Bay Area, Los Angeles, Palomar in San Diego County, Oxnard/Santa Barbara, Fresno, Santa Ana, Long Beach, Palm Desert, Philadelphia, Rhode Island, Ocala,Seattle, North Cascade in northern Washington state, Milwaukee, Fort Worth, Amarillo, Phoenix, Columbia and Greenville in South Carolina, Daytona Beach, Honolulu, Kalamazoo, Lansing, Boise, Hartford, Rockford,Akron, Indiana, Syracuse, Las Vegas, Cincinnati, Tampa Bay, Orlando, Melbourne, Venice, Stuart, Jackson, Knoxville, Wilmington, Greensboro, New Orleans, Cape Cod, Kansas City, Austin, Dallas, San Antonio,Buffalo, Binghamton, Fort Smith, Chicago, Jackson Hole, Boston, Somerville, Hilton Head, Anchorage, Hagerstown, Denver, Lehigh Valley, Atlanta, Waterloo, and Tulsa, Shreveport, Colorado Springs, Salt Lake City, Pensacola, Trenton, and perhaps other cities throughout the US.

 

Activities
Depending on its location, QB regular activities generally reflect the age of its members. Members can be elderly (but not always), sometimes conservative (but not exclusively), and they are mostly white because most pilots throughout the years have been white. Typical QB get-togethers start with a silent toast to deceased members, glasses raised to the west in keeping with an old pilot's expression euphemistically referring to death as having "Gone West." Food and drink are served, and perhaps a talk or other program is given. Off-color jokes are plentiful. Occasionally semi-nude female entertainment has been seen at some of the meetings, especially the Wing Dings, which are larger parties held in late spring or summer.
The Quiet Birdmen print a periodical called BEAM which features stories, jokes, and news of hangar get-togethers. No photos of QB parties are allowed in the journal. From time to time, various hangars have published commemorative membership books consisting of a brief recounting of the club's history, and photograph portraits of individual members. One such book was owned by club member K. S. "Slim" Lindsay, printed in May 1936. After Lindsay's death, it was donated in 2007 by his daughter to Wright State University. The leather-bound book has 160 pages and 640 photographs of Quiet Birdmen including portraits of Jimmy Doolittle, Wiley Post, Roscoe Turner, Walter R. Brookins and Ephraim Watkins "Pop" Cleveland.Another QB book was donated to the National Air and Space Museum by Arthur Raymond Brooks; it contains photographs of the members of the New York hangar and a description of the history and by-laws of the club.
Astronaut Edward Givens died in a car crash following a QB meeting. On a rainy Monday night, June 5, 1967, the Houston hangar of Quiet Birdmen met at the Skylane Motel on Telephone Road in Pearland, Texas. Fellow astronaut Gordon Cooper was there, and so were two U.S. Air Force reservists who had just been invited to their first QB meeting: Major William "Bill" Hall and Lieutenant Colonel Francis "Fran" Dellorto. Hall and Dellorto were told that they would become full members after attending twelve meetings. Givens was not drinking alcoholic beverages at the party as he was required at an important meeting the following morning. Between 11:30 pm and midnight, Givens offered Hall and Dellorto a ride back to their quarters at Ellington Air Force Base in Houston, and the three left the motel in Givens' Volkswagen Beetle.Givens drove north toward the main east–west highway, but mistakenly turned east onto parallel Knapp Road. He missed a sharp turn in the road and the car crashed into an irrigation ditch. Though he was wearing his lap belt, Givens' chest was crushed against the steering wheel. In the front passenger seat, Dellorto was seriously injured, while in the back seat, Hall was in fair condition. Givens, 37 years old, died on the way to the hospital early on June 6, pronounced dead on arrival at 12:40 am.
In Ventura, California, on a Monday night in October 1974, Ben Rich gave a talk to the Oxnard and Santa Barbara hangar of Quiet Birdmen about the Skunk Works program at Lockheed. Rich spoke of the Lockheed U-2 and SR-71 Blackbird programs which had recently been declassified, and identified QB member and attendee R. Scott Beat as a former U-2 pilot. Beat wrote in his book So Many Ways to Die: Surviving As a Spy in the Sky that this was the first time any of his friends or family had heard of that part of his past—he had faithfully kept the government's secrets to himself.
Beginning in 1971, rancher and aviator John S. "Jack" Broome, a founding member of the Oxnard hangar, held an annual private airshow and barbecue for the Quiet Birdmen at his ranch in Camarillo, California. Members of the Commemorative Air Force and Planes of Fame often piloted several of their warbirds at the events.After Broome died in April 2009, the 39th annual airshow was held in his memory in June 2009.The Broome family hosted one final private airshow for the Quiet Birdmen on June 14, 2010.

 

 

Notable members

 

• Forrest Bird
• Arthur Raymond Brooks
• Jack Broome
• Gordon Cooper
• Eugene Peyton Deatrick
• Jimmy Doolittle
• Robert G. Fowler
• Edward Givens
• Chalmers Goodlin
• Caleb V. Haynes
• Cliff Henderson
• Dean Ivan Lamb
• Walter E. Lees
• Charles Lindbergh
• John H. Livingston
• Zack Mosley
• Clyde Edward Pangborn
• Wiley Post
• Eddie Rickenbacker
• Charles E. Rosendahl
• Dean Smith, of the Byrd expeditions, flight instructor, air mail pilot
• Moye W. Stephens
• Richard G. Thomas
• Roscoe Turner
• Ernst Udet
• Jerry Vasconcells
• George Hubert Wilkins

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Thank you for the very informative post. I had never heard about this group. Very interesting club indeed. Thanks for the information. Dave

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My pleasure Dave.Until recently,I too had not heard about this Club.When the Wing came up for sale it drew little attention.I think that the Clubs' obscurity is due to it's penchant for secrecy and most people are unaware of it's existence.

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I asked an AAC collector friend who happens to be a licensed pilot if he had heard of them and he did. He is not a member, but was familiar with the club. I think the wings are great. They have to be pretty rare, as most people have never heard of them.. A great find for you. Dave

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Thanks Dave,I was glad to find them.I think that people that are in the Aviation field like your pilot friend stand the best chance of having heard about the club.

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Quiet Birdmen pins aren't all that rare, all things considered. Still, they are pretty neat and exist in a rather poorly collected niche.

 

Here is another WWI-originating piece. It is a ring for the Order of Deadalians (founded around 1934). It was originally founded by about 20 or so WWI combat pilots, although it has expanded considerably to include all military pilots. This ring belonged to Capt Lucas V. Beau, who was one of the originals. Ironically, I have had the chance at two of these rings, (one I let get away because I didn't understand the significance at the time (perils of ignorance!)). The first ring I could have bought belonged to Major William C Morris (it is now in Cliff's collection and can be seen here.

 

http://www.ww2wings.com/wings/wwi/us/cpmorrisring.shtml

 

The second was this one. It is a beautiful work of art. Apparently the die for the wing was broken sometime around WWII (IIRC). Thankfully, by the time the second one came around, I was a bit more educated and not nearly as stupid. Sadly, I had to pay significantly more for the second ring.

 

Patrick

 

 

 

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A bit more information. The ring is 10 K gold and silver and I believe was made by BB&B. This is one of the crown jewels in my collection.

Capt Beau was #3 in the order!

 

http://apollo.daedalians.org/founder?page=25

 

Some information about Maj General Lucas V. Beau
http://www.af.mil/About-Us/Biographies/Display/Article/107758/major-general-lucas-victor-beau/
http://www.nytimes.com/1986/10/24/obituaries/maj-gen-lucas-beau-dies-commanded-civil-air-patrol.html

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After talking with some friends at an Antique Mart about the posting of the Quiet Birdmen club. A dealer at the mall found this metal membership card among his items. He heard us talking about the club and came up with this. He never would have thought about it if he hadn't heard us discussing it. Anyway here is the chrome plated steel? membership card for "The Bearer is a Member of Ye Anciente and Secret Order of Quiet Birdmen." Dave

 

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Neat item Dave.I like how the card is made of metal.Too bad the Wings were'nt numbered too :(

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The card is really well made. It is number 36922. I would like to know how high the numbers go. It might give you an idea what time frame they are from.

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