vforvictory1945 Posted October 6, 2019 Share #201 Posted October 6, 2019 Another cool 1945 buckle AVAILABLE from VINTAGE PRODUCTIONS. Link to post Share on other sites
vforvictory1945 Posted October 6, 2019 Share #202 Posted October 6, 2019 Nice Vietnam War era ATC buckle with belt AVAILABLE from VINTAGEPRODUCTIONS. Link to post Share on other sites
Salvage Sailor Posted October 6, 2019 Share #203 Posted October 6, 2019 Nice Vietnam War era ATC buckle with belt AVAILABLE from VINTAGEPRODUCTIONS. USN Aircrewman (Airedale), Naval Support Activity Saigon Anchor's Aweigh Member National Association of Fleet Tug Sailors - The Salvage Navy! Link to post Share on other sites
PhilippineBuckles Posted October 6, 2019 Author Share #204 Posted October 6, 2019 Thank you Ryan for posting all the photographs! And thank you to Bob for letting you photograph them! Lot's of cool buckles! Not the fanciest buckle (Post #201 Philippines 1945, John M. Beck) of those just posted, but I have the "brother" (perhaps literally) buckle for Geralo E. Beck, Manila P.I. 1945. Somewhat amazing how internet can bring things together again. Link to post Share on other sites
vforvictory1945 Posted October 6, 2019 Share #205 Posted October 6, 2019 Salvage Sailor - Thanks for setting me straight on a couple of those buckles! PhilippineBuckles - That is quite the coincidence on the buckles that both you and Bob have. That would be crazy if the two guys were brothers. I've seen a few other brass toned Philippines buckles on my Worthpoint searches. They definite seem to be rarer than the others. Pretty cool. Regarding the photos from VINTAGEPRODUCTIONS I only photographed about half of what he has in stock and mostly the earlier ones. Link to post Share on other sites
vforvictory1945 Posted October 8, 2019 Share #206 Posted October 8, 2019 Here's the temporary buckle arrangement I have going until the display rack comes in. One mistake I made on a couple of the buckles that I wouldn't do again was polishing them to a high luster. I did it on 3 or 4 of the buckles using metal polish, but in doing so you loose that brassy flash rust highlighting in the background and dulled down patina in the foreground. You definitely see the details better unpolished and you keep the pieces most original as well. Learn from my mistake. Never again! Link to post Share on other sites
trenchbuff Posted October 8, 2019 Share #207 Posted October 8, 2019 Awesome collection V! Thanks for taking the time to post them. Visit My WebsiteFalls Creek CollectiblesSelling Quality 20th Century Militaria Link to post Share on other sites
hink441 Posted October 8, 2019 Share #208 Posted October 8, 2019 Yes, I agree very nice collection!! Chris Link to post Share on other sites
vforvictory1945 Posted October 8, 2019 Share #209 Posted October 8, 2019 Trenchbuff & Hink441 - Thanks for the kind words and you're most welcome. I'm constantly on the hunt for these buckles as I'm sure you guys are. Other than Ebay, Vintage Productions, and Flying Tiger Antiques I haven't really been able to locate these buckles at any local flea markets. I'm assuming Militaria shows or flea markets could have them but I have been only really been finding them online to date or at Vintage Productions warehouse showroom in Huntington Beach, CA. Happy hunting and collecting!!! Ryan Link to post Share on other sites
vforvictory1945 Posted October 9, 2019 Share #210 Posted October 9, 2019 Here's a real unique one. This picture came from Worthpoint but I can't recall ever seeing a Philippines Railroad related GI belt buckle like this one, Very cool indeed! Link to post Share on other sites
PhilippineBuckles Posted October 11, 2019 Author Share #211 Posted October 11, 2019 @vforvictory1945 -- Hey Ryan, your collection looks real nice as displayed! I'm glad you learned your lesson about not aggressively trying to clean or polish any more buckles. The only thing I do is sometimes is to use hawthorns to pick off any contaminates that are stuck in the engravings -- hawthorns (nature's wooden toothpick) won't scratch / damage the metal. I will also sometimes dip q-tips in acetone and then wipe off organic contaminates. Gift buckles are kind of neat as they show that sailors & soldiers appreciated the skill of Philippine buckle engravers as well as reminding us how they were thinking about loved ones back home. In terms of RR buckles, here is a picture of an undated Manila Railroad buckle which has an engraved train engine (BTW it looks like someone polished this buckle at some point). Link to post Share on other sites
vforvictory1945 Posted October 12, 2019 Share #212 Posted October 12, 2019 @PhilippineBuckles - Bill, thankfully when I did the polishing it was just with some metal polish and a microfiber cloth so there wasn't any damage or swirling, but just loss of patina. I do like your toothpick or acetone idea though as I have a few buckles with some old gunk on them that could come off though I would like to keep the rest of the patina. That Manila Railroad buckle is pretty cool . I saw that on Worthpoint a while back. I wonder who owns those two Railroad buckles as they are very unique and cool. The level of skill and detail work on the Philippines buckles, especially the pre 1960's examples that have nearly the entire surface area covered with some sort of engraving, are quite fascinating. Its even more amazing given the size of these buckles, as it seems they are in the 1-3/8" x 2-1/2" range mostly, so the craftsman had to hammer everything out in such a small area. I definitely have a great respect for the craftsmanship involved in these buckles. I wonder what the average labor hour allotment was for the average belt buckle? No clue. Link to post Share on other sites
easterneagle87 Posted October 18, 2019 Share #213 Posted October 18, 2019 Here's one I just added. Got it off of ebay and it was listed in as "vintage theater" Name of "ASH". I "primarily" collect Gulf War 1 patches. All branches (USA, USAF,USN, USMC & USCG) and ALL Countries..US - Op.'s Desert Shield / Storm / Provide Comfort /Some Southern Watch - F-4G's Wild WeaselsUK - Op.'s Granby / Sabre / WardenCanadian - Op. Desert Storm / Op. FrictionFrench - Daguet / AconitNetherlands, Belgium, Poland, South Korea, etc.Looking for the oddities, including unfinished & flawsI HAVE EXTRA's!! Will trade as well. Link to post Share on other sites
vforvictory1945 Posted October 19, 2019 Share #214 Posted October 19, 2019 Easterneagle87 - That's cool one. Here's a late 40's / early 50's Coast Guard buckle I picked up a couple of weeks ago. Link to post Share on other sites
GOAmules Posted October 20, 2019 Share #215 Posted October 20, 2019 When I was in the Navy in the mid 1980s I had this made in Olongapo, PI. Wore it on the ship for several years. I didn't realize the tradition went back to WWII, but I'm glad I had it made (overnight if I recall). Link to post Share on other sites
vforvictory1945 Posted October 24, 2019 Share #216 Posted October 24, 2019 USN Patrol Squadron Four (VP-4) stationed in Naha, Okinawa, Japan circa 1956. The squadron flew reconnaissance and Anti-submarine Warfare (AWA) missions to counter the Communist threat to the islands of Matsu and Quemoy. (Source: Squadron History - The Skinny Dragons). My guess is this buckle is in the 1956 - 1959 range. I believe the rank is Aviation Electronics Technician but please correct me if I'm wrong. Link to post Share on other sites
vforvictory1945 Posted October 26, 2019 Share #217 Posted October 26, 2019 USS ESSEX CVA-9 Link to post Share on other sites
easterneagle87 Posted November 8, 2019 Share #218 Posted November 8, 2019 So now that I've seen these, I have been gathering a "few" myself. Never know something exists and then they start popping up all over the place. Here is a grouping of 9 that I got on an ebay deal. USN AIR WARFAREUSN OFFICER SURFACE WARFAREENLISTED SURFACE WARFAREOFFICER USN NAVAL FLIGHT OFFICERF-14 FIGHTER JETF-18 FIGHTER JETNAVY FLIGHT SURGEONBATTLE SHIP MISOURI BB-63 MEDICAL CADUCEUS They're nothing special, except for the USS Missouri one (it was marked as "sample"). Found out he is a retired Navy Chief who is cleaning out his stuff and quitting selling so he can go fishing. He told me his wife had a shop out side of one the Florida Naval Bases and they were purchased and shipped from the big PI back in the 80's. Even though they are modern and not named, I still think they are cool. Just another rabbit hole to toss money at. They each came sealed in the original cellophane wrapper. I got the last of his singles but understand he still has Air Warefare ones left. I "primarily" collect Gulf War 1 patches. All branches (USA, USAF,USN, USMC & USCG) and ALL Countries..US - Op.'s Desert Shield / Storm / Provide Comfort /Some Southern Watch - F-4G's Wild WeaselsUK - Op.'s Granby / Sabre / WardenCanadian - Op. Desert Storm / Op. FrictionFrench - Daguet / AconitNetherlands, Belgium, Poland, South Korea, etc.Looking for the oddities, including unfinished & flawsI HAVE EXTRA's!! Will trade as well. Link to post Share on other sites
vforvictory1945 Posted November 9, 2019 Share #219 Posted November 9, 2019 Very cool collection!!! Link to post Share on other sites
PhilippineBuckles Posted November 10, 2019 Author Share #220 Posted November 10, 2019 @easterneagle87 -- Nice grouping. Thanks for posting. I personally like the F-14 & F-18 ones the best. Could you please post a close up of the USS Missouri buckle? I'd like to see what is engraved on the bottom line. Just a note that this thread now has over 50,000 views -- thank you everyone for reading and contributing! Although you might not find the following buckle very exciting, it is only the second plain (non-engraved) Philippines buckle I've come across. The back clasp with the home-plate shaped opening is what identifies it as a Philippines buckle and dates it to circa 1945. That said, what is different about this buckle is that it is a brass rather than the gray metal of most of the engraved buckles. Link to post Share on other sites
hink441 Posted November 10, 2019 Share #221 Posted November 10, 2019 The bottom line on the Missouri buckle says "BB-63". Link to post Share on other sites
vforvictory1945 Posted November 12, 2019 Share #222 Posted November 12, 2019 In response to Bill's last post about the brass baseball diamond belt buckle I just picked this one up. Its the only buckle I own with the diamond backing true and true brass tone. It seems on some of the other buckles they are either chrome plated over brass or some type of silver metal and when the silver metal is engraved the newly carved metal rusts slightly to produce the golden huge. I'm not sure though as this is only a guess. This is my conclusion though as when I polished a few buckles a month or so ago the polishing removed the brass tone so I suspect that it was just surface rust? That's my best guess. Link to post Share on other sites
dpcsdan Posted November 12, 2019 Share #223 Posted November 12, 2019 USS ESSEX CVA-9 Nice. "Acting" Chief Aviation Storekeeper. Book Link: U.S. Navy Tailor-Made Dress Blues, Liberty Cuffs, and Sailor Folk ArtWanted: USN Liberty Cuffs, vintage bullion rating badges, pre-1914 rating badges and vintage USN Police style Badges.. Link to post Share on other sites
hink441 Posted November 12, 2019 Share #224 Posted November 12, 2019 USN C-9B belt buckle. Link to post Share on other sites
easterneagle87 Posted November 14, 2019 Share #225 Posted November 14, 2019 The bottom line on the Missouri buckle says "BB-63". Here's a shot of the Mighty Mo engraving I "primarily" collect Gulf War 1 patches. All branches (USA, USAF,USN, USMC & USCG) and ALL Countries..US - Op.'s Desert Shield / Storm / Provide Comfort /Some Southern Watch - F-4G's Wild WeaselsUK - Op.'s Granby / Sabre / WardenCanadian - Op. Desert Storm / Op. FrictionFrench - Daguet / AconitNetherlands, Belgium, Poland, South Korea, etc.Looking for the oddities, including unfinished & flawsI HAVE EXTRA's!! Will trade as well. Link to post Share on other sites
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