shrapneldude Posted August 13, 2017 Share #1 Posted August 13, 2017 I've got this ERDL coat with a poncho-liner lining. Pockets have been shortened, slanted, and buttons replaced with snaps. I'm fairly certain the original wasn't the later RDF pattern because in some places there's "lime green dominant" ERDL pattern camo, though most of it is brown-dominant ERDL / RDF type material. Anyhow -- I've seen the souvenir jackets done up like this at Okinawa tailor shops, but usually those aren't as over-engineered as this thing is. There's extra snaps, grommets, a zipper, and a piece that seems to go between the legs, something like on a fallshrimjager smock. What I mean to say is, it seems too purpose-built to be a novelty piece, I'm just not sure what that purpose was. Does anyone here know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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vintageproductions Posted August 13, 2017 Share #5 Posted August 13, 2017 That is cool. Love the fact it is cut like a French jump smock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrapneldude Posted August 13, 2017 Author Share #6 Posted August 13, 2017 That is cool. Love the fact it is cut like a French jump smock. It IS! I just googled French Jump Smock and apart from the bottom being slanted inwards, this is almost a direct copy. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Cap Camouflage Pattern I Posted August 13, 2017 Share #8 Posted August 13, 2017 Very interesting, any markers mark/name on the snaps that might narrow down when/where it was made? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrapneldude Posted August 13, 2017 Author Share #9 Posted August 13, 2017 Very interesting, any markers mark/name on the snaps that might narrow down when/where it was made? There are marks inside the snaps, and stars, but because of the way they're punched through, all I can make out is "AN" -- "France" perhaps? I don't recognize the maker either. May also be "KANT" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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kammo-man Posted August 13, 2017 Share #12 Posted August 13, 2017 Cool piece. owen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrapneldude Posted August 13, 2017 Author Share #13 Posted August 13, 2017 Cool piece. owen Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beau-Brummel Posted August 13, 2017 Share #14 Posted August 13, 2017 Snaps could be 'kane' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrapneldude Posted August 13, 2017 Author Share #15 Posted August 13, 2017 Snaps could be 'kane'They could. Kane is a company that makes fasteners like this. Not sure it helps date the piece, but according to the Kane-M website they started in 1987. They operate in China, Vietnam, Japan, Thailand, and the US. I don't see an M on here and the site references a parent company, so it's possible Kane M absorbed a pre-existing Kane operation from one of those countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beau-Brummel Posted August 13, 2017 Share #16 Posted August 13, 2017 Probably; KANE brand snaps are to be found on a lot of Japanese and Vietnamese made hats of the period Yours, Guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrapneldude Posted August 14, 2017 Author Share #17 Posted August 14, 2017 Probably; KANE brand snaps are to be found on a lot of Japanese and Vietnamese made hats of the period Yours, Guy. Thanks. I don't really collect much Vietnam era stuff. I suppose the challenge now is to try and figure out why someone had a French jump smock done up with US materials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beau-Brummel Posted August 14, 2017 Share #18 Posted August 14, 2017 No problem; The jump smock cut was very popular and a lot of US Airborne advisors actually wore them as did SF members. Once the stocks became depleted people were having them made in all sorts of weird and wonderful fabrics. Famously, one advisor had French pattern smocks made in multiple camouflage variations as well as a black one . Yours, Guy. Thanks. I don't really collect much Vietnam era stuff. I suppose the challenge now is to try and figure out why someone had a French jump smock done up with US materials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vintageproductions Posted August 14, 2017 Share #19 Posted August 14, 2017 I have one made out of duck hunter camo to a SF advisor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beau-Brummel Posted August 14, 2017 Share #20 Posted August 14, 2017 Would like to see that Bob! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap Camouflage Pattern I Posted February 14, 2021 Share #21 Posted February 14, 2021 Auto Defense Choc Commander Kham Phan at LS-201, Sam Thong, Laos 1969. Photos by USAID Refugee Operations Officer Ernest Kuhn (pictured on the left in the second photo). From the The Ernest and Phaythoune Kuhn Image Collection of the University of Wisconsin-Madison Libraries. Obviously it's not the same but I was reminded of your piece by the zipper, bare silver snaps, epaulets, and the seemingly decorative snaps on the back, like the snaps under the arms on yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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