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Anyone know how long they manufactured wings? I suspect some Jostens wings claimed to be WWII vintage are actually USAF wings, maybe 50s or 60s period. I think the same thing can be said for Balfour pilot wings. Does anybody know for certain about Jostens?

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The answer will depend on specific examples since there are differences. If you post some specific examples I am sure it will be helpful.

 

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John


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Well, here's a possible example, from an auction in progress on eBay (230303979053). There are pieces marked 9M and 22M in the lot, and the ribbon rack has National Defense and Air Force Longevity ribbons.

 

I would assume the Josten wings are post WWII based on the other pieces in the lot. So the question remains: when did Josten stop making wings?

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Hello,

 

I can't offer any rock solid information on when Josten started or stopped making wings, but I think you can consider a number of things.

 

1) The JOSTEN hallmark and use of clutch back attachments (as seen on the command pilot wings you show) are found on most of the Josten WWII period wings, such as the WASP wings and the balloon pilot and balloon observer wings. So this command pilot wing easily fits in the WWII time period based on those facts.

 

2) By the 60's the alpha-numeric code was implemented and (IIRC) all insignia had to utilize this system. Since these wings lack the alpha/numeric code, that suggests that at the very least these wings could have fallen in between WWII and the late 50's early 60's. In fact, I am not sure that Josten even had a code assigned to them (the WAF forum has a very nice listing of code and manufacturer), suggesting to me that they were not making insignia in the 50's.

 

3) A wing may have been made at one point, but sold some significant time later. Just because it was struck in 1945, for example, doesn't mean it couldn't have sat around in some back storage room in the PX on base. So, this guy could have bought a wing in late 1950 that was made in late 1945.

 

4) It is possible that this fellow earned the command pilot rating sometime around the end of WWII or just post WWII/KW era, and the Josten wings were the first wings he purchased. Over the next decade or two, he may have purchased more command pilot wings, thus explaining the different hallmarks on the NS Meyer wings (9M being earlier than the 22M code)--so in fact what you see are a range of wings that he bought over his career, thus explaining the different hallmarks.

 

In general, I think most wing collectors would have little problem assigning these Josten wings to WWII or just post WWII vintage.

 

Patrick

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Thanks for posting the photos. patrick has provide much of the info I think your are seeking. I would like to know if you can post the CP wing without the clutches to show the detail of the base of the pins and to see how long they are.

 

John


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