m1a2u2 Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 I purchased some M1945 suspenders that are very light khaki, almost tan. Were these issued to US troops or do I have a foreign army's copy? Link to post Share on other sites
No Quarter Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 Could you upload pictures? Jacob Check out my website: http://www.pofmilitaryantiques.com/ Link to post Share on other sites
m1a2u2 Posted July 12, 2017 Author Share Posted July 12, 2017 Could you upload pictures? Jacob Just did. Any thoughts? Link to post Share on other sites
bheskett Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 Could they just be really faded? Can you take some close up pics? Bob Link to post Share on other sites
m1a2u2 Posted July 12, 2017 Author Share Posted July 12, 2017 Could they just be really faded? Can you take some close up pics? Bob Definitely not faded. Even the padding underneath the strap is tan. Link to post Share on other sites
robinb Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Look reproduction to me. Link to post Share on other sites
patches Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 A period copy made by a foreign army, a middle eastern army? Iranian, maybe Israeli? Link to post Share on other sites
m1a2u2 Posted July 13, 2017 Author Share Posted July 13, 2017 Look reproduction to me. I don't think so. Found it in the basement of a very old army surplus store in Baltimore in a box covered in dust. No reproductions down there. Link to post Share on other sites
patches Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Interesting for sure, and this have none of those U.S. marking with date on them as seen on the OD7 ones eh? Link to post Share on other sites
RustyCanteen Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 A period copy made by a foreign army, a middle eastern army? Iranian, maybe Israeli? Probably this. Israel used a tan M56 style suspender, and it would not be surprising if this was a model used before that. Although I should clarify that one doubt I have is the use of the 'D' tip; most of the web gear from that part of the world shared a manufacturing style that was very British influenced, and had square tips that were riveted on. "It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts." *Sherlock Holmes in "A Scandal in Bohemia"* Link to post Share on other sites
RustyCanteen Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Look reproduction to me. Possible, the webbing seems pretty mismatched (on the rear straps) which I tend to doubt would meet the requirements of any military worldwide. The Israeli gear that showed up surplus was very well made, so this observation throws more doubt in my mind that this was made for them. The thin strap circled above looks an awful lot like the coarse, thin webbing which shows up on those cheap looking M1 carbine slings. "It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts." *Sherlock Holmes in "A Scandal in Bohemia"* Link to post Share on other sites
Linedoggie Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Probably this. Israel used a tan M56 style suspender, and it would not be surprising if this was a model used before that. Although I should clarify that one doubt I have is the use of the 'D' tip; most of the web gear from that part of the world shared a manufacturing style that was very British influenced, and had square tips that were riveted on. The Royal Jordanian Army used the US M1 Rifle and Carbine, Khaki HBT fatigues ans US style webbingbelts instead of UK P37 Link to post Share on other sites
m1a2u2 Posted July 13, 2017 Author Share Posted July 13, 2017 Possible, the webbing seems pretty mismatched (on the rear straps) which I tend to doubt would meet the requirements of any military worldwide. The Israeli gear that showed up surplus was very well made, so this observation throws more doubt in my mind that this was made for them. strap.jpg The thin strap circled above looks an awful lot like the coarse, thin webbing which shows up on those cheap looking M1 carbine slings. No they look like the same consistency. Did Israeli use M56 suspenders? I thought they were uniquely Israeli. I guess it's possible the US made these for export purposes which is how they wound up in the surplus store. That store definitely isn't buying anything from the Middle East. Link to post Share on other sites
Marchville1918 Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 I don't see any of the usual contractor ink stamp markings which on m45 suspenders was usually on the front side of each half. They don't appear faded so it appears such a stamp was never there. That and the color makes me say that they were never US army issue and probably not us production. Mideast seems reasonable. Maybe Greek. They used a lot of US small arms. I have seen what we would call m1910 ammo belts that were Greek made sold with CMP M1 rifles. Link to post Share on other sites
patches Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 I don't see any of the usual contractor ink stamp markings which on m45 suspenders was usually on the front side of each half. They don't appear faded so it appears such a stamp was never there. That and the color makes me say that they were never US army issue and probably not us production. Mideast seems reasonable. Maybe Greek. They used a lot of US small arms. I have seen what we would call m1910 ammo belts that were Greek made sold with CMP M1 rifles. Maybe even Turkish 50s-70s! OD as we see in the photo, but perhaps a Khaki version was made too??? Link to post Share on other sites
doyler Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 Did the French military use them or just US surplus? In Memoriam:Lieutenant J.Kostelec 1-3 First Special Service Force MIA/PD 4 March 1944 ItalyI HAVE SEEN THE ENEMY AND IT IS DAYLIGHTForget about the tips..We'll get hell to pay (AC/DC)"If you cant get out and run with the big dogs then sit on the porch and bark at the cars going by.." Have you Hugged a Clown Today? You Cant Get A Sun Tan On The Moon.. Link to post Share on other sites
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