milcollector Posted June 21, 2017 Share #1 Posted June 21, 2017 Hi, Can anyone help identify the ribbon on the ribbon bar and corresponding medal. I thought Order of St. John at first, but not it. Thanks, David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeclown Posted June 21, 2017 Share #2 Posted June 21, 2017 The crown seems to match Belgium, are you sure the entire medal is there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milcollector Posted June 21, 2017 Author Share #3 Posted June 21, 2017 Hi, Yes medal appears to be complete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFloyd Posted June 21, 2017 Share #4 Posted June 21, 2017 There are scores of organizations that style themselves as the "Order of St. John" or some variant of the name. This appears to represent one of those ephemeral orders. The absence of enamel in the upper arm indicates the grade of "donat", which is someone who is not a member of the order, but who donates to the organization's cause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milcollector Posted June 21, 2017 Author Share #5 Posted June 21, 2017 Hi, Thank you guys for your responses. I got the medal and ribbon bar along with some other medals including his named Legion of Merit from his estate about 20 years ago. He retired as a Major General. The order above, would it have been from WWII era? I notice the ribbon bar appears to end with his WWII service as later medal such as the Legion of Merit are not on it. My favorite piece is his hat. I am a big hat collector. His name is Major General Carl J Dueser. David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lettow Posted June 21, 2017 Share #6 Posted June 21, 2017 I looked for an obit to see if it would have anything in it but could not find one. He and his wife died in an automobile accident in Maryland in 1978. They were living in Boyce, Virginia at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milcollector Posted June 21, 2017 Author Share #7 Posted June 21, 2017 Thank you for the information. Very sad that they both passed away together. David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lettow Posted June 21, 2017 Share #8 Posted June 21, 2017 Hi, Thank you guys for your responses. I got the medal and ribbon bar along with some other medals including his named Legion of Merit from his estate about 20 years ago. He retired as a Major General. The order above, would it have been from WWII era? I notice the ribbon bar appears to end with his WWII service as later medal such as the Legion of Merit are not on it. My favorite piece is his hat. I am a big hat collector. His name is Major General Carl J Dueser. David Difficult to say but the Armed Forces Reserve Medal has two hourglasses on it meaning at least 30 years of reserve time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uniformcollector Posted June 21, 2017 Share #9 Posted June 21, 2017 I may be wrong, but I have a group with an Order of Malta. It looks pretty similar to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsakers85 Posted June 22, 2017 Share #10 Posted June 22, 2017 It is the Sovereign Military Order of Malta - a Catholic religious order. Here is Major General Alden K. Sibley wearing the jewel and sash of the order. http://gouniforms.blogspot.com/2012/04/major-general-alden-kingsland-sibley.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milcollector Posted June 22, 2017 Author Share #11 Posted June 22, 2017 Thank you for the photo and the info. Yes the medal looks the same. The only difference I can see is the upper arm on mine is gilt and not enameled. I am guessing designating a different class of the order. It seems strange that a non military medal would have a ribbon on the military ribbon bar. Does anyone know why that would be? David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uniformcollector Posted June 22, 2017 Share #12 Posted June 22, 2017 Here is the one I have from Col. Roger Donlon. I don't think I have seen a medal without enamel on every side. Is it possible that the top part is damaged on yours? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milcollector Posted June 22, 2017 Author Share #13 Posted June 22, 2017 Hi, Thank you for the photo. I looked at mine with a loop and no signs of ever having enamel on the upper leg. It just has a gilt rayed finish. The gilt matches the rest of the medal. Here is a close up photo. David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milcollector Posted June 22, 2017 Author Share #14 Posted June 22, 2017 Also, being a non military medal, why would it be allowed to be worn on the ribbon bar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsakers85 Posted June 22, 2017 Share #15 Posted June 22, 2017 I am fairly certain your jewel has lost its enamel in that section, this happens often and I believe those rays like that were for the enamel to adhere to the metal. Society awards can be worn on the uniform when attending functions of the society. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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