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milcollector

Hi,

Can anyone help identify the ribbon on the ribbon bar and

corresponding medal.

 

I thought Order of St. John at first, but not it.

 

Thanks, David

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There are scores of organizations that style themselves as the "Order of St. John" or some variant of the name. This appears to represent one of those ephemeral orders. The absence of enamel in the upper arm indicates the grade of "donat", which is someone who is not a member of the order, but who donates to the organization's cause.

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milcollector

Hi,

Thank you guys for your responses.

I got the medal and ribbon bar along with some other medals

including his named Legion of Merit from his estate about 20 years ago.

He retired as a Major General. The order above, would it have been from

WWII era? I notice the ribbon bar appears to end with his WWII service as

later medal such as the Legion of Merit are not on it.

My favorite piece is his hat. I am a big hat collector.

His name is Major General Carl J Dueser.

David

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I looked for an obit to see if it would have anything in it but could not find one. He and his wife died in an automobile accident in Maryland in 1978. They were living in Boyce, Virginia at the time.

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Hi,

Thank you guys for your responses.

I got the medal and ribbon bar along with some other medals

including his named Legion of Merit from his estate about 20 years ago.

He retired as a Major General. The order above, would it have been from

WWII era? I notice the ribbon bar appears to end with his WWII service as

later medal such as the Legion of Merit are not on it.

My favorite piece is his hat. I am a big hat collector.

His name is Major General Carl J Dueser.

David

 

Difficult to say but the Armed Forces Reserve Medal has two hourglasses on it meaning at least 30 years of reserve time.

 

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milcollector

Thank you for the photo and the info.

Yes the medal looks the same. The only difference I can see is

the upper arm on mine is gilt and not enameled. I am guessing designating a

different class of the order.

 

It seems strange that a non military medal would have a ribbon on the military

ribbon bar.

Does anyone know why that would be?

 

David

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uniformcollector

Here is the one I have from Col. Roger Donlon. I don't think I have seen a medal without enamel on every side. Is it possible that the top part is damaged on yours?

 

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milcollector

Hi,

Thank you for the photo.

I looked at mine with a loop and no signs of ever having enamel

on the upper leg. It just has a gilt rayed finish. The gilt matches the rest of the medal.

Here is a close up photo.

David

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I am fairly certain your jewel has lost its enamel in that section, this happens often and I believe those rays like that were for the enamel to adhere to the metal.

 

Society awards can be worn on the uniform when attending functions of the society.

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