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I am getting conflicting opinions about this, can someone please tell me what this patch dates? It does not glow under black light and the base cloth is Navy blue.Thanx.

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snowy white back, id say its WW2 era. But the 101st patches get deep....so many variations they write books about it...LOL



Pvt. James H. Honey 1st Md. Eastern shore Vol. Inf. Co. D (union) Gettysburg
Pvt. George Eddie Lear 26th Inf. Co.H 1st Div .(WW1) P.H. WIA Cpl. Richard Elsea 268th C.A. Bn. Battery A. WW2 SSgt. Grant Elsea 314th Inf. Hq.Co. I.R.79thDiv. WW2
Cpl. Harry Lawrence Butler Jr 23rd Regt. WIA Korea Lt. George Olin Tilghman 111th MG. 29th Div. WW1 DIS France 1919
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Can someone quote the text that states, specifically, that the Type 11 is post war? I do not own a copy. I was informed by someone who does, that Bando's Type 11, pictured in his guide, is attributed to a member of the 502nd. Is there an assumption that Type 11 is a post war production? Or, is it stated emphatically that all, 11-15, are post war?


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I believe this one to be post WWII with its 1950's era matching black twill.....

 

-Ski


In Memory Of......
Pte Harold Griffiths, 1805, 1/6th Manchester Regt, KIA June 4th, 1915 in Gallipoli
Cpl Isaac Judges, 40494, 6th East Yorkshire Regt, KIA October 3rd, 1917 in Ypres
May they rest in peace.....

MSgt - USAF Retired

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I have refereed this to Mark Bando. The patch in question was produced towards the end of the war through to the '50's. He has an example with WWII provenance. So... it could go either way as to the vintage of this patch. Mystery solved and thank you to all who commented.


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I have refereed this to Mark Bando. The patch in question was produced towards the end of the war through to the '50's. He has an example with WWII provenance. So... it could go either way as to the vintage of this patch. Mystery solved and thank you to all who commented.

 

 

We could get even more definitive if you could ask Mark if the WWII one he saw actually had black twill or Khaki/ OD backing.

 

-Ski


In Memory Of......
Pte Harold Griffiths, 1805, 1/6th Manchester Regt, KIA June 4th, 1915 in Gallipoli
Cpl Isaac Judges, 40494, 6th East Yorkshire Regt, KIA October 3rd, 1917 in Ypres
May they rest in peace.....

MSgt - USAF Retired

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He has seen two of the same Type ( he can't remember if they were Type 4 or 10), but was told they came together from the same vet's family. Although the patches looked the same, one was bluish-purplish on the edges and the other was tan. This was the first time that he had seen a patch with that color on the edges definitely attributed to the WW2 era. However, he was not assured because one does not know 100% if the story is truthful or if a postwar substitution could have been added. He has gotten some blue tinged Type 10s from 101st vets who stayed in the Army until the 1960s, and they attributed those patches to the 1950s or 60s era, at Ft Campbell. He feels pretty sure the eagle patches with those purplish edges date to that period, and whether they existed during WW2 he is still not 100% convinced. So, I will concede that, without any provenance, my patch is post war with the slightest chance that it could be late war. We may never know for sure. In any case, it is still a very nice and seldom encountered variation. The edge on my patch is absolutely, for sure blue. not black.


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Thanks for the follow up! It certainly helps us collectors to have that kind of intel! ;)

 

-Ski


In Memory Of......
Pte Harold Griffiths, 1805, 1/6th Manchester Regt, KIA June 4th, 1915 in Gallipoli
Cpl Isaac Judges, 40494, 6th East Yorkshire Regt, KIA October 3rd, 1917 in Ypres
May they rest in peace.....

MSgt - USAF Retired

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