US Victory Museum Posted October 8, 2008 Share #1 Posted October 8, 2008 A fellow member recently posted this photo that inspired me to try to replicate a pre-WWI era uniform for display. Obviously I have a way to go; however, there is nothing so rewarding as setting a goal and working towards it. [i.e. It keeps me off the street. ;-) ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Victory Museum Posted October 8, 2008 Author Share #2 Posted October 8, 2008 M1903 Cartridge Belt (rimless eagle snap fasteners) M1905 Entrenching tool Cover (Dated 1907) This particular cover is designed to be hung from the M1903 belt using the same fastener as the Krag bayonet sheath. After close observation, I have determined that I most likely would damage the belt trying to thread the catch over the pockets, or scratch the surface of the buttons; therefore, I shall not attempt to display this particular shovel suspended from this belt. Perhaps if I should find a belt with frays, then I wouldn't be so squeamish about trying. M1911 Campaign Hat (1st pattern 1911-1916) M1910 Leggings. I recently purchased a set of M1907 leggings that would be more suitable for display with the early belt and shovel carrier; however, I'm eagerly awaiting their delivery at this time. Clearly in the near future I shall be needing a set of M1907 suspenders, M1904 or M1908 Haversack, and a Span.-Am. war era type canteen, and either a Krag or springfield bayonet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Victory Museum Posted October 8, 2008 Author Share #3 Posted October 8, 2008 This M1905 model carrier (dated 1907, Hey! It's over a hundred years old!) was manufactured by (RIA) Rock Island Arsenal at Rock Island, IL. The leather has become brittle, so I have no intention of removing the shovel from the carrier, nor will I correctly thread part of the strap through the loop on the backside (See 2nd Photo in series). Everything is going to stay the way it is to prevent further deterioration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TrenchRaider1918 Posted October 8, 2008 Share #8 Posted October 8, 2008 Hey I like what you're doing! I've about completed my early gear set. The toughest ones will probably be a pair of 1904 Russet Marching Shoes and some 03 or 07 suspenders. For a post 1910 I'd get a first pattern M1910 Haversack and eagle snap canteen. Good luck in finding the other items! Great Job! Carl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Marine Posted October 8, 2008 Share #9 Posted October 8, 2008 That's a nice display you have there. I really like turn of the century gear and uniforms, I think it gets overlooked a lot. Great stuff, keep the pictures coming. Dennis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GIl Sanow Posted October 8, 2008 Share #10 Posted October 8, 2008 Take another look at the shovel cover. Squeeze the wires of the hanger part together and they will disengage so you can put the hanger on the belt between two pouches. Then restore the original position! See, those guys back then were not so dumb afterall! G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GIl Sanow Posted October 8, 2008 Share #11 Posted October 8, 2008 Take another look at the shovel cover. Squeeze the wires of the hanger part together and they will disengage so you can put the hanger on the belt between two pouches. Then restore the original position! See, those guys back then were not so dumb afterall! G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Victory Museum Posted October 9, 2008 Author Share #12 Posted October 9, 2008 Thank you, Mr. Sanow. I feel stupid now, but I have been enlightened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Meatcan Posted October 9, 2008 Share #13 Posted October 9, 2008 very interesting and cool rig! It's always neat to see the early gear and follow its evolution through different eras of webgear design. Thanks for sharing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Victory Museum Posted October 28, 2008 Author Share #14 Posted October 28, 2008 An update... A few more accouterments. Rock Island Armory M1904 Bolo (1909 dated) w/ scabbard (also dated 1909). Initials, HEK, stamped into the leather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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US Victory Museum Posted October 28, 2008 Author Share #17 Posted October 28, 2008 M1912 Summer tunic/ blouse w/ M1902 Infantry chevrons (coloured blue). The buttons appear to be vegetable ivory; yet, since they are removable I'm not quite sure whether they would be correct for a circa 1912-1913 display. If anyone knows when this button style was first used, please feel free to chime in. I can always locate the correct style buttons if this is not correct. I have a 1905 dated canteen hanger. Although I have already purchased a S.A.W. canteen, it hasn't yet been delivered. The M1907 leggings are a recent acquisition since I last posted. Clearly I need the canteen to be delivered, I need to acquire either an M1904 or M1908 haversack, an M1907 set of braces, and a smallish mannequin to put it upon. Am I missing anything else? Any suggestions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Victory Museum Posted October 28, 2008 Author Share #18 Posted October 28, 2008 Cheverons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Victory Museum Posted October 28, 2008 Author Share #19 Posted October 28, 2008 M1907 leggings. (Tiny) LAST PIC IN TODAY'S UPDATE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wailuna Posted October 28, 2008 Share #20 Posted October 28, 2008 ...Any suggestions? This is a very interesting project. The photo you are using to model this display is from a thread that received plenty of attention for a couple of weeks in September (link here). The concluding consensus after considerable discussion was that the troops shown in this series of photos were Coast Artillerymen stationed at Ft. Barrancas, Fla., and at its sub-post, Ft. Pickens, sometime between about 1910 and 1917. If you intend to follow this photo faithfully, you will need to make some adjustments to the insignia on your uniform to show period Coast Artillery affiliation: Khaki on khaki chevrons (branch colors on khaki chevrons were long out of date by 1910), Coast Artillery pattern collar disc, and scarlet hat cord. Or, if you intend to display Infantry, you need only to change the chevrons to khaki/khaki and the hat cord to light blue. In either case, you will have an excellent display. Good work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunbarrel Posted October 28, 2008 Share #21 Posted October 28, 2008 What you call a M1904 bolo is really a beautiful Model 1904 Hospital Corpsman Knife. Are you trying to depict a medic? If not (and you want a bolo), get a true Model 1909 bolo, or a Model 1910 bolo. This is a M1909 Bolo: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunbarrel Posted October 28, 2008 Share #22 Posted October 28, 2008 Here is a close-up of it: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunbarrel Posted October 28, 2008 Share #23 Posted October 28, 2008 Present day photo. If I remember correctly, this is Greg Robinson's bolo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunbarrel Posted October 28, 2008 Share #24 Posted October 28, 2008 On this photo of my collection you can see Pvt. Andrew M. Howard, Field Hospital No. 107, clowning around with his HCK at Van Cortlandt Park, NYC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunbarrel Posted October 28, 2008 Share #25 Posted October 28, 2008 You can see what a M1910 Bolo looks like on these Machine Gun Troops on the Mexican border in 1914 (Charlie Flick's photo): Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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