Jay V Posted December 15, 2016 Share #1 Posted December 15, 2016 Hi Guys Hey was wondering if there is a way of dating Navy Officiers hat Badges to ww2 or earlier? Any help would be appreciated,Jay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Minton Posted December 15, 2016 Share #2 Posted December 15, 2016 The eagle will face right if it is from before mid 1941. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
29navy Posted December 15, 2016 Share #3 Posted December 15, 2016 No, the eagle faced LEFT before 1941. The 1941 uniform regs changed it to facing right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KurtA Posted December 15, 2016 Share #4 Posted December 15, 2016 When referencing the "left" or "right" facing thing, you have to state from whose perspective to avoid confusion. Pre 1941 is "eagle's left" or "viewer's right." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay V Posted December 15, 2016 Author Share #5 Posted December 15, 2016 Thanks Guys, but is that looking at the eagle or wearing the hat ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay V Posted December 15, 2016 Author Share #6 Posted December 15, 2016 LOL Kurt,you were answering my question same time as I was asking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Minton Posted December 16, 2016 Share #7 Posted December 16, 2016 When referencing the "left" or "right" facing thing, you have to state from whose perspective to avoid confusion. Pre 1941 is "eagle's left" or "viewer's right." Accurate observation. As collectors, does it make senses to refer to the wearer's POV? Every discussion I recall among collectors assumes viewer's POV. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin B. Posted December 16, 2016 Share #8 Posted December 16, 2016 In my experience, with clothing, uniforms and associated accouterments, unless specified otherwise it is conventional to use left and right with reference to the wearer. So we say a man's jacket buttons left over right, we say some WW2 rates wore the rating badge on the right arm, we say wings are worn on the left breast, we say enlisted army brass is worn with the US on the right and branch on the left. Justin B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 16, 2016 Share #9 Posted December 16, 2016 Here's a great link on pre-1941 hat devices: http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/index.php?/topic/62840-pre-1941-left-facing-usn-officers-hat-devices/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 16, 2016 Share #10 Posted December 16, 2016 Oh, and 99% (that's a SWAG, but in general) of pre-1941 officer's devices were in bullion, not metal. The same can be said for the post-1941 ones, but just the opposite. And as far as dating post-1941 hat devices, it's pretty much impossible to say that one was made in 1942 and another was made in 1952, unless there are specific maker marks that can be IDed to the certain time periods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay V Posted December 17, 2016 Author Share #11 Posted December 17, 2016 Dave Thanks for the Link,Jay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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