Norwood Posted August 29, 2016 Share #1 Posted August 29, 2016 Picked up a canteen that I believe is military but can not find one like it. Could anyone tell me what country this might belong to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarbridge Posted August 29, 2016 Share #2 Posted August 29, 2016 It is Non-US...I will lock the thread soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norwood Posted August 29, 2016 Author Share #3 Posted August 29, 2016 Have discovered this is a Landers Fray & Clark pre WW2, but a US manufacture (Connecticut). You jumped the gun there Senior Mod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gitana Posted August 29, 2016 Share #4 Posted August 29, 2016 OP, please elaborate. Possible that LF&C made this for either commercial use or for a foreign country? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norwood Posted August 30, 2016 Author Share #5 Posted August 30, 2016 Most likely not for military use and I believe that is what Tarbridge meant by non-us. This particular one seems to have been painted black for some reason. They look better shined up, but it does show how much better things were made in the early part of the last Century. This thing is solid which may or may not indicate end use other than commerical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarbridge Posted August 30, 2016 Share #6 Posted August 30, 2016 Have discovered this is a Landers Fray & Clark pre WW2, but a US manufacture (Connecticut). You jumped the gun there Senior ModThanks for the information...I left the thread open for identification...which worked splendidly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantomfixer Posted August 30, 2016 Share #7 Posted August 30, 2016 Is it military? There is one at a local shop...but passed not knowing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarbridge Posted August 30, 2016 Share #8 Posted August 30, 2016 I personally think it is not Military ...it looks European but has been identified above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rakkasan187 Posted August 30, 2016 Share #9 Posted August 30, 2016 Just a correction on the manufacturer. This is Landers Frary and Clark, not Fray. Would it be possible to take pictures of the manufacturers stamp? I know it may not reveal too well through the paint but I am curious. Good detective work on the identification too.. Leigh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norwood Posted August 30, 2016 Author Share #10 Posted August 30, 2016 Just a correction on the manufacturer. This is Landers Frary and Clark, not Fray. Would it be possible to take pictures of the manufacturers stamp? I know it may not reveal too well through the paint but I am curious. Good detective work on the identification too.. Leigh this black paint is making it hard to locate a stamp do you know where the identification is usually located? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norwood Posted August 30, 2016 Author Share #11 Posted August 30, 2016 the following web site seems to indicate that this might indeed be a WWI canteen. http://www.hogriver.org/issues/v02n01/manufacturing.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rakkasan187 Posted August 30, 2016 Share #12 Posted August 30, 2016 If there is going to be a maker's mark, it would either be on the bottom or on the face or flat surface of the canteen. This is what a Landers Frary and Clark (LF&C) canteen looks like.. I will continue to research this. Leigh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gitana Posted August 30, 2016 Share #13 Posted August 30, 2016 the following web site seems to indicate that this might indeed be a WWI canteen. http://www.hogriver.org/issues/v02n01/manufacturing.htm It says that LF&C made canteens during WWI. If so, the canteen would be standard M1910 model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarbridge Posted August 30, 2016 Share #14 Posted August 30, 2016 The original posted canteen looks nothing like the WWI canteen in my estimation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gitana Posted August 30, 2016 Share #15 Posted August 30, 2016 This one's on ebay. Looks like it's a commercial canteen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarbridge Posted August 30, 2016 Share #16 Posted August 30, 2016 Have discovered this is a Landers Fray & Clark pre WW2, but a US manufacture (Connecticut). You jumped the gun there Senior ModFrom how or where did you make this discovery? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norwood Posted August 30, 2016 Author Share #17 Posted August 30, 2016 Alright. I've spent have the day on this and need to get back to work. Gitana' post shows the only canteen authorized by the Quartermaster Corps durning WWI. This canteen was the M-1910 developed by Rock Island with 5 manufactuers of which Landers, Frary and Clark was one. The other two canteens in original post and by Leigh were manufactured by L,F&C but not for WW1 military use. This information came from the History of the US Army Field Gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rakkasan187 Posted August 30, 2016 Share #18 Posted August 30, 2016 Great information flow here... Like seeing how this has developed with other forum members knowledge and research.. Leigh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Posted August 31, 2016 Share #19 Posted August 31, 2016 this black paint is making it hard to locate a stamp do you know where the identification is usually located? I'm with Robert...if you can't see the stamp how did you determine this was a LF&C? Just curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norwood Posted August 31, 2016 Author Share #20 Posted August 31, 2016 Mine is a cautionary tale. I made a cardinal sin by initialy going on apperance to identify a piece without first finding the neccesary information. i.e. stamps or dates. We stripped the paint off and found universal stamped on the neck, but nothing else. This would suggest that the initial guess was correct, but does not excuse the process. I would like to apologize to this community which I highly respect for both their knowledge and expertise. I have been a collector for 15 years and it has become apparent I still have a lot to learn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarbridge Posted August 31, 2016 Share #21 Posted August 31, 2016 This forum allows us all to learn everyday and we do this among our friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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