Jump to content

"Carlisle" Pouch Help


Blacksmith
 Share

Recommended Posts

Hi friends - found this recently, and would love your opinions on it. Has Carr glove snaps, and construction and material made me think USMC. However, it doesn't have the rounded corners that I've come to expect with USMC gauze pouches. Any ideas? Thank you.

post-94991-0-47135500-1472230721_thumb.jpeg

post-94991-0-78051700-1472230737_thumb.jpeg

post-94991-0-24220600-1472230750_thumb.jpeg

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I believe this is a depot or QMD made pouch.. but for some reason not marked.

Maybe lend-lease?

 

I hate that so much field gear has these grease pencil markings on them, but I suppose it attests to a time when these items were no more than surplus junk.

 

-Brian

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Thank you Brian. Any sense for value?

 

I believe this is a depot or QMD made pouch.. but for some reason not marked.

Maybe lend-lease?

 

I hate that so much field gear has these grease pencil markings on them, but I suppose it attests to a time when these items were no more than surplus junk.

 

-Brian

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Isnt this a variation of the Medics "wound tag" pouch ?

 

Regards

 

 

Lloyd

Yep. It's a diagnostic tag pouch for WW1 medics. I've seen some marked with the Mills maker's stamp and some unmarked.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Wow, they do look really close. Subtle difference in stitching.

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

The USMC pouch had rounded corners and thin tape around the edges.

The M1910 first aid pouch shown in that ebay auction looks similar to the diagnostic tag pouch but there are several differences. The diagnosis tag pouch is slightly taller than the first aid pouch, the location of the snaps were different and, as mentioned above, the placement of the stitching. Most notably the horizontal stitching on the front. On the first aid pouch it is just above the snaps and on the diagnostic tag pouch it's just below the snaps (and they also run vertically along the edges). The most obvious difference is that the material is totally different. The first aid pouch is a much softer woven canvas and the diagnostic tag pouch is usually a pretty stiff, thinner, denim like material. These are just my observations though.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I've got a very similar one stamped J.Q.M.D. 1942, OD 3 and canvas material. I considered it to be nothing more than a variant of the bandage pouch. Jack

Link to comment
Share on other sites

This is a diagnostic tag pouch from WW1. To my knowledge they were not produced after WW1. It may have been used on occasion as a first aid pouch (or to carry anything else for that matter) but its intended use was to carry tags with treatment information pertaining to wounded and injured soldiers as well as other small items like scissors, safety pins, etc. The photo of the 3 medics is from Fausto's post in the below thread.

 

http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/index.php?/topic/191701-large-style-wwi-first-aid-pouch-bandge-question/

 

The period photo of the Medics belt (posted by atb) shows the clipped corner variation of this pouch (from this thread http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/index.php?/topic/128579-mills-clipped-corners-first-aid-pouch/)

post-3508-0-40929300-1472239610_thumb.jpg

post-3508-0-34089400-1472239995.jpg

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Very informative thread I certainly see the difference now!

 

If I saw this at a garage sale I probably would have bought it and stuck a Carlisle tin in it!!

 

 

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Someone obviously felt the same way, as it had one in it when I bought it.

 

As part of 'the dance', because I knew it didn't belong there, I told him he could keep it.

 

:)

 

Very informative thread I certainly see the difference now!

 

If I saw this at a garage sale I probably would have bought it and stuck a Carlisle tin in it!!

 

 

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
 Share

×
×
  • Create New...