USMC Guidon Help

[Outtair]

Just picked up these 2 USMC Guidons. The seller lived in Ohio for many years stating they came from a General ?? Mace's family in Chillicothe, Ohio . The artillery is dated 2/4/1959 Headquarters is not dated. Any help on history it came with a Viet Cong flag, wondering if these were training or actual battlefield.

[Outtair]

Other Heaquarters

[Mr.Jerry]

Pretty sure the top one is Army. Missile Artillery

Units would have carried these with them though.

[SgtMaddoxUSMC]

Top one definitely not USMC. TTU LANT - possibly Tank Training Unit, Atlantic? Or something with a T Training Unit. Would be my best guess.

[firefighter]

Bottom- Troop Training Unit Atlantic?

[Bruce Linz]

The Marine Corps guidon is for Headquaters Detachment, Troop Training Unit, Naval Amphibious Base, Little Creek, Virginia.

 

The other guidon is to some Air Defense Artillery unit.

[firefighter]

Top is

Company - A

2nd Battalion

21st ADA RGT

[firefighter]

This is the ONLY 21st ADA unit i could find, on-line and my lineage books. If it belongs to this unit then it looks to be from around 1953-57 time period?

 

 

21st Antiaircraft Artillery Battalion
(Automatic Weapons)
(Self-propelled)
“Always Vigilant” 14 November 1951 Constituted 5 September 1928 in the Organized Reserves as the 2nd Battalion, 562nd Coast Artillery Regiment (Antiaircraft). Redesignated as the 2nd Battalion, 917th Coast Artillery Regiment (Antiaircraft) and organized in Virginia on 30 November 1929. Allotted to the Regular Army, redesignated as the 2nd Battalion, 70th Coast Artillery Regiment (Antiaircraft) and activated at Fort Monroe, VA on 4 November 1939. In WW II the 70th Coast Artillery landed on Guadalcanal with the XIV Corps on 23 May 1943. On 10 November 1943 the 70th Coast Artillery Regiment was reorganized and redesignated as the 70th Antiaircraft Artillery Group with the 2nd Battalion being reorganized and redesignated as the 925th Antiaircraft Artillery Automatic Weapons Battalion (Semi-mobile). The 925th served on Guadalcanal, New Georgia, Green and Bougainville islands during the Northern Solomons and Bismarck Archipelago campaigns. On 11 March 1945 the battalion landed in the Philippines and participated in the Leyte campaign receiving a Philippine Presidential Unit Citation. The 925th was inactivated in the Philippines on 31 August 1946. On 13 October 1948 the 925th was redesignated as the 21st Antiaircraft Artillery Automatic Weapons Battalion and activated on 8 June 1949 at Fort Bliss, Texas. The 21st AAA arrived in Korea in November 1950 and served as a non-divisional AAA battalion until assigned to the 25th Division on 14 November 1951. The 21st fought in eight campaigns of the Korean War using its antiaircraft weapons primarily in a ground support role. The battalion received a Navy Presidential Unit Citation for gallantry at Wonju-Hwachon and a Navy Unit Commendation for action at Panmunjom. On 15 April 1953 the battalion was redesignated as the 21st Antiaircraft Artillery Battalion (Automatic Weapons) (Self-propelled). On 1 February 1957 the battalion was relieved from assignment to the 25th Infantry Division and inactivated at Schofield Barracks on 14 December 1957. On 31 July 1959 the 21st AAA Battalion was consolidated with the 562nd Artillery Regiment. The 5th and 6th Battalions (inactive) of the 562nd Air Defense Artillery Regiment now carry the battle honors awarded to the 21st AAA for its WW II and Korean service.

[SgtMaddoxUSMC]

Ahhh TROOP Training Unit... Makes sense!

[Outtair]

Thanks for the help, do any of you show a Mace looked in Arlington but no grave. Have no idea of first name and seller said he thought he was a General.

Tim

[firefighter]

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gsr&GSiman=1&GScid=49269&GSfn=&GSln=mace

[Outtair]

General Mace.htmlIt took some detective work but I solved the question. Seller lead me to believe Mace was USMC. He was US Army, that solved the question of the USA Artillery guidon. The USMC might have been from a joint training operation. Included is USMA obituary.

[patches]

That ADA one is in fact the 2nd Battalion 21st Artillery circa 1959-69, PENTOMIC and or ROAD period, and remembering that there was no ADA Branch specific then. There were quite a few CARS battalions of the 21st Artillery after 1957, the 2nd was a Honest John battalion, by contrast, the 1st Battalion was a 105mm unit, this one was in Vietnam as a unit of the 1st Cav Div, the 2nd was in Hawaii during the 60s.