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A good friend of mine picked up a cap yesterday with this logo inside the crown. I think it says 'Boston - Chicago' and 'Uniform Makers', but we can't read the company name. Logo appears to have a man in uniform by a globe or something.

 

Does anyone recognize it?

 

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We both think it says "[illegible]felder Co."

 

Any ideas who made it?

 

Thanks!

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Now with pics of the cap my friend sent:

 

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WANTED - seriously interested in named Chief/Senior/Master TORPEDOMAN USN uniforms from the 1950s-1960s-1970s, and named USN jumpers or CPO coats from WWII. http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/index.php?/topic/321179-wanted-torpedoman-uniforms-named-1920s-1970s/

 

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Inside of crown

 

 

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WANTED - seriously interested in named Chief/Senior/Master TORPEDOMAN USN uniforms from the 1950s-1960s-1970s, and named USN jumpers or CPO coats from WWII. http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/index.php?/topic/321179-wanted-torpedoman-uniforms-named-1920s-1970s/

 

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It looks like it had a screwback insignia on the front

 

 

 

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WANTED - seriously interested in named Chief/Senior/Master TORPEDOMAN USN uniforms from the 1950s-1960s-1970s, and named USN jumpers or CPO coats from WWII. http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/index.php?/topic/321179-wanted-torpedoman-uniforms-named-1920s-1970s/

 

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I posted this on behalf of a friend, can anyone ID it?

 

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More pics posted here http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/index.php?/topic/264293-cap-logo-id/?p=2125449

 

 

Thanks!

***WANTED*** Uniforms to Pearl Harbor Survivors.

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WANTED - seriously interested in named Chief/Senior/Master TORPEDOMAN USN uniforms from the 1950s-1960s-1970s, and named USN jumpers or CPO coats from WWII. http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/index.php?/topic/321179-wanted-torpedoman-uniforms-named-1920s-1970s/

 

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Any thoughts on this? We're stumped.

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WANTED - seriously interested in named Chief/Senior/Master TORPEDOMAN USN uniforms from the 1950s-1960s-1970s, and named USN jumpers or CPO coats from WWII. http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/index.php?/topic/321179-wanted-torpedoman-uniforms-named-1920s-1970s/

 

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Just wondering if anyone has thoughts on this, or recognizes the maker logo?

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WANTED - seriously interested in named Chief/Senior/Master TORPEDOMAN USN uniforms from the 1950s-1960s-1970s, and named USN jumpers or CPO coats from WWII. http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/index.php?/topic/321179-wanted-torpedoman-uniforms-named-1920s-1970s/

 

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This appears to be the US Army Officer's Dress Cap from the 1902 regulations. It is distinguished from the Full Dress Cap which has gold braid and branch colors around the band instead of the black mohair.

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Hi! Thank you for the information. We thought it looked like a 1902 cap, but we couldn't really find anything detailed to tell confirm this was military or how old. It's definitely got the look and feel of a pre-WWI piece, and is in great condition.

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WANTED - seriously interested in named Chief/Senior/Master TORPEDOMAN USN uniforms from the 1950s-1960s-1970s, and named USN jumpers or CPO coats from WWII. http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/index.php?/topic/321179-wanted-torpedoman-uniforms-named-1920s-1970s/

 

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My thoughts is that is perhaps a police or fire dept cap. Fire chiefs wear a similar cap and I believe I have seen that mark in a few of my older police hats when I collected them. I think someone probably placed those side buttons on there.

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Terry

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Hi!

 

I've forwarded the thread to my friend to read. The thoughts and information were much appreciated. The logo turned out to match Fred M. Batchelder Co. as suggested! Looking at their ads, it seems they supplied both the civilian and military markets.

 

Friend did say it appeared that there was an eagle cap device on the front that seemed to have been removed in more recent years.

 

Appreciate the thoughts!

***WANTED*** Uniforms to Pearl Harbor Survivors.

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WANTED - seriously interested in named Chief/Senior/Master TORPEDOMAN USN uniforms from the 1950s-1960s-1970s, and named USN jumpers or CPO coats from WWII. http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/index.php?/topic/321179-wanted-torpedoman-uniforms-named-1920s-1970s/

 

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These are usually found with rimless M1902 gilt buttons, and the insignia is often bullion. The insignia could have been a federal eagle or a state pattern. These visors were discontinued in 1912, about the time the rimmed buttons were adopted. At that time, regulations called for the wear of the full dress visor instead.

 

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That's a nice example, but Gil is right about the bullion insignia. I see those much more frequently.

-Todd

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Hi!

 

Thanks, this is great information. I have passed it along to my friend.

 

It sounds like someone must have removed the cap device because it was harder to find than the 'usual' bullion version?

***WANTED*** Uniforms to Pearl Harbor Survivors.

Wanted: USN uniforms to Pearl Harbor survivors & WWII sunk ship survivors. http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/index.php?/topic/264131-wanted-uniforms-to-pearl-harbor-and-sunk-ships-survivors/

 

WANTED - seriously interested in named Chief/Senior/Master TORPEDOMAN USN uniforms from the 1950s-1960s-1970s, and named USN jumpers or CPO coats from WWII. http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/index.php?/topic/321179-wanted-torpedoman-uniforms-named-1920s-1970s/

 

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