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Collectors / historians often pass up old military negatives, or leave them abandoned in a drawer, envelope, etc as it seems like a chore to take them somewhere to be printed.

 

Often there is a wealth of information on these negatives and in the digital age you can often easily restore them to a positive AT HOME.

 

I scan the negative into Adobe Photoshop. Then press CTRL & I at the same time and the image will change from a negative to a positive.

 

Once this is done you have a lot of options in Photoshop to clean it up, OR leave it as is.

 

I'm sure other photos programs have the same capability but the term MAY NOT be invert, which requires a little searching on your part to find the equivalent.

 

Hopefully this information will be of some value, and you may find some surprises in your photos.

 

I have attached a BEFORE and AFTER photo so you get the effect.

regards,

Bob Frey

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This is a wonderful tip! Thx.



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Excellent.


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Excellent info! Thanks for posting.

Bobgee


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Thanks for the excellent tip RTFREY! I didn't even know I could do that in photoshop.

 

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If it smells like a mothball or old leather, I'm interested!

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I have a roll of 1944 undeveloped film. It came from a army photographers bag and was never developed. The tag he wrote says "Bring back WWII, Photos on the hill, KEEP!"

 

Any ideas of who could possibly develop these for me? They have not seen the light of day, and they still remain in the box, and in the metal container.

 

I was told some photo place that does work for the SMITHSONIAN and FBI.

 

Any ideas?

 

Thank you!

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Any ideas of who could possibly develop these for me? They have not seen the light of day, and they still remain in the box, and in the metal container.

 

Here is a good thread on this specific topic: http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/ind...l=film+develope



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I know, I started that thread, I still have not gotten anyone to do it. The places that were recommended wouldnt do it.

1 said he would but told me he probably would destroy it trying to develop. I am going to try to see if i can find the place that does work for the smithsonian.

I cant remember what the name of the photo restore company was.

 

Thanks

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I know, I started that thread, I still have not gotten anyone to do it. The places that were recommended wouldnt do it.

1 said he would but told me he probably would destroy it trying to develop. I am going to try to see if i can find the place that does work for the smithsonian.

I cant remember what the name of the photo restore company was.

 

Thanks

I don't know for sure, but it may be somewhere in here:

 

http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/ind...showtopic=26375


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I know, I started that thread, I still have not gotten anyone to do it. The places that were recommended wouldnt do it.

1 said he would but told me he probably would destroy it trying to develop. I am going to try to see if i can find the place that does work for the smithsonian.

I cant remember what the name of the photo restore company was.

 

Thanks

 

 

Go back to to Rocky Mountain Lab, which was mentioned in that thread: they now have pages devoted to developing old film. It looks like Kodachrome can be done as black and white: http://www.rockymountainfilm.com/kiimovie.htm



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This looks like a great tip! How do you scan the negatives? I have some larger b/w negatives that will not fit in the 35mm mount on one of my scanners. Did you just lay your negative down on the glass of the scanner and scan it like you would a photo or document? I tried that with a color negative and it diodn't come out very well. Thanks again for the idea!


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This looks like a great tip! How do you scan the negatives? I have some larger b/w negatives that will not fit in the 35mm mount on one of my scanners. Did you just lay your negative down on the glass of the scanner and scan it like you would a photo or document? I tried that with a color negative and it diodn't come out very well. Thanks again for the idea!

 

 

Yes just lay them flat on the scanner plate / deck and scan them into Photoshop if you have that or something similar. You can then invert them, resize, clean them up etc.

 

Scanning color is a whole different and a bit complicated process best done by photo professionals.

 

Post a few when you get them done so we can see how they turned out.

regards,

Bob Frey

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Yes just lay them flat on the scanner plate / deck and scan them into Photoshop if you have that or something similar. You can then invert them, resize, clean them up etc.

 

Scanning color is a whole different and a bit complicated process best done by photo professionals.

 

Post a few when you get them done so we can see how they turned out.

regards,

Bob Frey

 

Bob,

Here are the steps that I have taken

1. Changed the setting on the scanner so it scans the negative as B/W

 

2. Use a B/W negative (WWI era)

 

3. Lay the negative on a standard flat bed scanner with no adapter for negatives

 

4. Closed the scanner lid

 

This is the result:

 

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Then using the same steps, I tried scanning with the lid open:

 

 

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I used Photoshop elements and reversed them from negative to postive, but there was not enough detail to make anything out.

 

Any thoughts?

 

 

BTW, this is what the negative looked like when I set the scanner to scan for color:

 

 

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Bob,

Here are the steps that I have taken

1. Changed the setting on the scanner so it scans the negative as B/W

 

2. Use a B/W negative (WWI era)

 

3. Lay the negative on a standard flat bed scanner with no adapter for negatives

 

4. Closed the scanner lid

 

This is the result:

 

post-203-1222001424.jpg

Then using the same steps, I tried scanning with the lid open:

post-203-1222001464.jpg

 

I used Photoshop elements and reversed them from negative to postive, but there was not enough detail to make anything out.

 

Any thoughts?

BTW, this is what the negative looked like when I set the scanner to scan for color:

post-203-1222001792.jpg

 

 

Beast,

It's hard to do from here without sitting by your computer and scanner.

 

See if the scanner has a lighten / darken feature that you can adjust after you scan, and before you accept it.

 

OR you made be able to increase the light output on the scanner tube itself. Some scanners alow this.

 

OR scan it into Photshop itself, AS IS and see if you can lighten it there.

 

Other then being there and trying it myself it's the best I can do.

 

I've had no problem scanning negatives but that doesn't help you much.

 

I'm sure one of the TECHIES on the forum will offer some assistance if the above doesn't resolve it.

 

Let me know how / IF it works.

regards,

Bob Frey

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I have the same problem as Beast.

Got a few rolls of film from my friend who was in 26th Division.

When I scan them - also with the tips here - I only get blurry, unclear photos.

Trying to cleaan them up results into nothing.

I guess I'll have to take them to a professional to have them developed.

 

Erwin


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You pretty much cannot scan negatives just by putting them on the scanner the same way you do prints: you have to have a scanner with "transparency" scanning options, which shines the light through the image instead of bouncing it off the image the way it does when you scan a print.



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That's what I thought too.

Maybe silly to ask, but what if you leave the cover open?

I'm no expert in these things, sorry.

 

Erwin


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I just did it again to check if I left something out.

 

I laid the negative on the scanner with NO SPECIAL settings and scanned it into my C, Hard drive.

 

I opened Photoshop, went to the negative loction on the C Drive, opened it, went to IMAGE then ADJUST- pressed INVERT and here it is.

 

I don't understand the problem, but here is the proof.

regards,

Bob Frey

 

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I just did it again to check if I left something out.

 

I laid the negative on the scanner with NO SPECIAL settings and scanned it into my C, Hard drive.

 

I opened Photoshop, went to the negative loction on the C Drive, open it, went to IMAGE then ADJUST- pressed INVERT and here it is.

 

I don't understand the problem, but here is the proof.

regards,

Bob Frey

 

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Aloha Everyone,

 

I recently bought a Cannon Canoscan 8800F specifically to scan B&W and Color negatives. It works great! It was specifically made with a negative scanning feature (and for slides too) It comes with the holders for 35mm film strips or slides and 120mm format films. I have not yet tried to scan frames from film reels yet, but I imagine that this would also work with this scanner.

 

Before I bought this, I did quite alot of research and read up extensively on the feedback regarding various units on photo/computer websites, so please do your research to find the best scanner for your needs.

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Aloha Everyone,

 

I recently bought a Cannon Canoscan 8800F specifically to scan B&W and Color negatives. It works great! It was specifically made with a negative scanning feature (and for slides too) It comes with the holders for 35mm film strips or slides and 120mm format films. I have not yet tried to scan frames from film reels yet, but I imagine that this would also work with this scanner.

 

Before I bought this, I did quite alot of research and read up extensively on the feedback regarding various units on photo/computer websites, so please do your research to find the best scanner for your needs.

I've seen those devices, and was quite impressed.

 

I did wonder of there could be holders for 2x2, 3x5, 4x5, 5x7 transparencies or negatives?


HONORING FAMILY LtCol Wm Russell (1679-1757) VA Mil; Pvt Zachariah McKay (1714-97) Frederick VA Mil; BrigGen Evan Shelby, Jr (1719-94) VA Mil; Pvt Vincent Hobbs (1722-1808) Wythe VA Mil; Pvt Hugh Alexander (1724-77); Lt John R. Litton (1726-1804); Bvt BrigGen/Col Wm W. Russell (1735-93) 5th VA Rgmt; Lt James Scott (1736-1817); Capt John Murray, Sr (1747-1833); Capt John Sehorn, Sr (1748-1831) VA Mil; Pvt Corbin Lane (1750-1816) Franklin/TN Mil; Cpl Jesse D. Reynolds (1750-1836) 5th VA Rgmt; Capt. Solomon C. Litton (1751-1844); 1Lt Christopher Casey (1754-1840) SC Mil; Pvt Mark Adams (1755-1828); Pvt Randolph White (1755-1831) Bailey's Co. VA Rgmt; Capt. John R. Russell (1758-1838); Pvt Joseph T. Cooley (1767-1826) Fort Hempstead Mil; Pvt Thomas Barron (1776-1863) 1812; Capt. John Baumgardner (1787-1853) VA Mil; Pvt Joel Estep (1828-1864) Co B 5th KY Inf CSA & US; Pvt George B. Bell (1833-1910) Co C 47th IL Inf US; Cpl Daniel H. Barron (1838-1910) Co B 19th TN Rgmt Inf CSA; Capt Richard K. Kaufman (1908-1946) 7th PRG/3rd AF CCU; T-5 Vernon L. Bell (1926-95) 1802nd Spec Rgmt; PO2 Murray J. Heichman (1932-2019) HQSB/MCRD; PFC Jess Long (1934-2017) US Army; PFC Donald W. Johnson (1931-) 43rd ID HQ; A1C Keith W. Bell (1931-2011) 314th TCW; A3C Michael S. Bell (1946-) 3346th CMS; A1C Sam W. Lee (1954-2017) 2d BW; AW3 Keith J. Price (1975-) VP-10; 1Lt Matthew Wm Bell (1985-) 82nd Abn/SOC








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That's very good for just laying it on the scanner. Some scanners have a light in the lid so you can change settings and it will use light light on transparencies.



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