stealthytyler Posted March 14, 2016 Share #1 Posted March 14, 2016 Check out this helmet on Ebay. Legit? I dont think the seller knows what he has if it is real... http://www.ebay.com/itm/WW2-US-Navy-Helmet-with-insert-fully-intact-/131751414783?hash=item1eacff0bff:g:DAIAAOSwv9hW5ZBW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stealthytyler Posted March 14, 2016 Author Share #2 Posted March 14, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogTCollect Posted March 14, 2016 Share #3 Posted March 14, 2016 I personally like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkash23686 Posted March 14, 2016 Share #4 Posted March 14, 2016 I'd want much better pics of it before I'd go dropping D-day helmet money on it. Theres parts that look good and parts that look iffy to me which could both be caused by the poor lighting and flash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Government Issue Posted March 14, 2016 Share #5 Posted March 14, 2016 It's intriguing for sure. I'm not an authority on D-Day navy lids so I have no idea. However, that odd white dot under the USN literally has no patina to it like the rest of the helmet. Could be period or maybe some paint accidentally got dabbed on it in the not so distant past? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stealthytyler Posted March 14, 2016 Author Share #6 Posted March 14, 2016 I have a WWII helmet with white paint. Not even close to the stained look as this one. Doesn't mean its not real... just a thought. Anyone want to forecast the sale price of this helmet? I would guess $3,000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmaher55 Posted March 14, 2016 Share #7 Posted March 14, 2016 Maybe it "disappears"...... I'm sure he's getting offers on the side.... Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill47 Posted March 14, 2016 Share #8 Posted March 14, 2016 I would need much better photos--taken in better lighting--to be a fan of this one. I would steer clear of it based on the pictures that accompany the eBay listing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacksmith Posted March 14, 2016 Share #9 Posted March 14, 2016 Agree, these pics make it a difficult study. For some reason the "USN" doesn't sit right with me. Maybe it's the outline, or that the blue-gray stripe alone denotes that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just-a-good-ole-boy Posted March 14, 2016 Share #10 Posted March 14, 2016 In my opinion, the liner is original and the pot has been painted to go with it. I don't like the "rubbed" areas of paint over the stress cracks at the rear of the shell. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccmax Posted March 14, 2016 Share #11 Posted March 14, 2016 Do you think it's the same grey paint on both shell and liner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manayunkman Posted March 14, 2016 Share #12 Posted March 14, 2016 This is the first of three items that they have listed in over 6 months. They don't appear to know much about what they have or militaria in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmaher55 Posted March 15, 2016 Share #13 Posted March 15, 2016 I don't t think it's a fake. Would love to have it in hand but I think we are seeing age, storage conditions, heat, dampness, and time working on a helmet. Not sure how it was stored but everything "matches" to me......... First look, it passes. Just my 2 cents. In hand, well that's for the buyer. And no, won't be bidding on it. Need another lid like I need a hole in my head. Regards, Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugme Posted March 15, 2016 Share #14 Posted March 15, 2016 I really think the flash is causing much of the issue here. I've blown up the photo's and in all honesty, I kinda like this one. Couple that with the eBay Money Back Guarantee and..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1966ww2collector Posted March 15, 2016 Share #15 Posted March 15, 2016 I don't t think it's a fake. Would love to have it in hand but I think we are seeing age, storage conditions, heat, dampness, and time working on a helmet. Not sure how it was stored but everything "matches" to me......... First look, it passes. Just my 2 cents. In hand, well that's for the buyer. And no, won't be bidding on it. Need another lid like I need a hole in my head. Regards, ChrisHelmets are used to prevent holes in the head. More helmets = less holes in the head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stealthytyler Posted March 15, 2016 Author Share #16 Posted March 15, 2016 I reached out to the seller just to see what the story was (NO, I am not bidding... dont have that much money haha!) His dad was given this helmet many years ago while he was in the real estate business. He really didn't now what he had until he received a ton of high dollar offers through Ebay. He told me that he is going to let the auction continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stealthytyler Posted March 15, 2016 Author Share #17 Posted March 15, 2016 here is original white paint on my M1 helmet... just to use as a color comparison for what its worth... the edges become colored with (rust?) but the white is pretty white... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdk0911 Posted March 15, 2016 Share #18 Posted March 15, 2016 one concern I have is the black paint on the lid (border around the white USN) looks like it was sprayed on and then the white was painted on after with a brush - why the 2 different application methods? just a question no disproving if fake or not? I like the liner better than the lid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmoore456 Posted March 15, 2016 Share #19 Posted March 15, 2016 one concern I have is the black paint on the lid (border around the white USN) looks like it was sprayed on and then the white was painted on after with a brush - why the 2 different application methods? just a question no disproving if fake or not? I like the liner better than the lid IMHO it was originally black but changed to white to stand out better when on the beach. That way everyone knows they are to be/stay on the beach. Ray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkash23686 Posted March 15, 2016 Share #20 Posted March 15, 2016 IMHO it was originally black but changed to white to stand out better when on the beach. That way everyone knows they are to be/stay on the beach. Ray Yeah lots of example of D-day lids with black USN marks repainted over white. This however is the first I've seen where the USN was covered over exactly where the old markings were. Usually the USN stencils were lower and after the stripes applied the white was painted higher than the original markings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1966ww2collector Posted March 15, 2016 Share #21 Posted March 15, 2016 I really think the flash is causing much of the issue here. I've blown up the photo's and in all honesty, I kinda like this one. Couple that with the eBay Money Back Guarantee and..... Hey Scott, I've read through the eBay money back guarantee and all I can find for returning would be if the item doesn't match the description. Maybe I'm missing something but I think it would be hard to make a case for a return if something was off on this one. The buyer isn't really claiming anything besides it being USN WW2 Helmet. I guess one could make an argument that the shell isn't Navy or the shell doesn't match the liner. I don't know. I think whoever buys it should be pretty confident that it's good. If this one were to go out and then come back, it would be cursed rightly or wrongly. Maybe I am leaning too much on "seller's rights" as opposed to "buyers". That might be the deciding factor in the end. Better to be the buyer than the seller in an eBay dispute. For what it's worth, I like it. And, I am so happy that this one didn't go out the backdoor. I would love to know how many offers this seller got. Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stealthytyler Posted March 16, 2016 Author Share #22 Posted March 16, 2016 Its at $2,225 right now. I guessed $3k but who knows... might fetch more!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodes Posted March 16, 2016 Share #23 Posted March 16, 2016 I would need much better photos--taken in better lighting--to be a fan of this one. I would steer clear of it based on the pictures that accompany the eBay listing. Especially when the seller doesn't offer a return policy......Bodes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugme Posted March 16, 2016 Share #24 Posted March 16, 2016 Hey Scott, I've read through the eBay money back guarantee and all I can find for returning would be if the item doesn't match the description. Maybe I'm missing something but I think it would be hard to make a case for a return if something was off on this one. The buyer isn't really claiming anything besides it being USN WW2 Helmet. I guess one could make an argument that the shell isn't Navy or the shell doesn't match the liner. I don't know. I think whoever buys it should be pretty confident that it's good. If this one were to go out and then come back, it would be cursed rightly or wrongly. Maybe I am leaning too much on "seller's rights" as opposed to "buyers". That might be the deciding factor in the end. Better to be the buyer than the seller in an eBay dispute. For what it's worth, I like it. And, I am so happy that this one didn't go out the backdoor. I would love to know how many offers this seller got. Doug For sellers, sadly, the buyer protection policy is really a no questions asked money back guarantee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1966ww2collector Posted March 16, 2016 Share #25 Posted March 16, 2016 For sellers, sadly, the buyer protection policy is really a no questions asked money back guarantee.Good to know. Thanks. Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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