VenitHora Posted January 23, 2016 Share #1 Posted January 23, 2016 Hello, I was wondering if anyone can ID the patch on this or can add their opinions on this Jacket? It is named to a Lt. V. Jackson on the inside. Sorry for the poor pictures but the Jacket is not mine. Thank you in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VenitHora Posted January 23, 2016 Author Share #2 Posted January 23, 2016 the back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlebuddy Posted January 23, 2016 Share #3 Posted January 23, 2016 A pic of the label would have been good, but from what i can see , the jacket looks original , but as for the paintwork ??? As has been seen on other threads regarding painted A2's ,it is a minefield ! My gut opinion is that the jacket out dates the paintwork ,but that is just my opinion LB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nack Posted January 23, 2016 Share #4 Posted January 23, 2016 Yeah, I think you need good, detailed pics to get some really useful opinions, but the colors of the paint are awfully bright, and the painting on the back doesn't look like the style of the the era. It almost looks like anime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Der Finn Posted January 23, 2016 Share #5 Posted January 23, 2016 Ah-h, once again paranoia rears its head on a Forum post............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Watkins Posted January 23, 2016 Share #6 Posted January 23, 2016 In response to your question, the the patch was the unapproved unit emblem of the 757thBombSqdn / 459thBombGp(H) / Fifteenth AF. Bob P.S. If you can get some better photos to post, it would help some of the guys on this forum in gauging the age of the artwork on this item. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manayunkman Posted January 23, 2016 Share #7 Posted January 23, 2016 That is a very cool jacket. The pictures aren't the best but I think the artwork is period. Is the jacket by itself or are the photos papers etc. ? The artwork is great and unusual and that will add to the value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantomfixer Posted January 23, 2016 Share #8 Posted January 23, 2016 Not enough to tell for sure, but looks like a JA Dubow A-2... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VenitHora Posted January 23, 2016 Author Share #9 Posted January 23, 2016 Hello, Thank you all for the help. R. Watkins, really appreciate the patch ID. Found a Lt. matching the name in the squadron who was shot down in January 1945, but the plane had a different name and no other plane in the squadron matches the name written on the back. In person, the artwork looks a little bright compared to the patch which I believe is genuine. There are no other items with the jacket. Could still be genuine but without more proof I think the skepticism is founded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doyler Posted January 23, 2016 Share #10 Posted January 23, 2016 Patch looks typical italian made.The design is cut into the leather then painted.Hard to see the details but if you saw it up close you can tell the details of construction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USMC-RECON0321 Posted January 23, 2016 Share #11 Posted January 23, 2016 Ah-h, once again paranoia rears its head on a Forum post............ Well unless that jacket is being sold very cheap, paranoia is not a bad thing until you feel good about it one way or another. Here is my "opinion" from the pictures. I agree with several others the paint on the back looks recent to me compared to the wear / aging of the leather around it, but what really jumps out to me as suspect is the excellent condition of the Hitler painting, which is located in the center of the back of the jacket, that would most certainly get the most wear of any other part of the jacket. "most" anytime you sit or lay down you would be making contact with the back of the jacket. Troy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustin Posted January 23, 2016 Share #12 Posted January 23, 2016 Ah-h, once again paranoia rears its head on a Forum post............ I'm not sure I understand this comment. We are talking about a potential value of a healthy four figures for a painted A-2 and especially one that has character of the art such as this. These have been reproduced for one reason or another for 50 years so yes dilignece is required, proceed with caution. Call it paranoia and suspicion or whatever. What's the old saying? A fool and his money...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Der Finn Posted January 23, 2016 Share #13 Posted January 23, 2016 VenitHora: Are you certain "No Use Adolf" is the name of a plane? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usaaf93 Posted January 23, 2016 Share #14 Posted January 23, 2016 I knew I had already seen this back paint http://wearekoalasvintage.com/tag/vintage-ww2-bomber-jacket/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Scott Posted January 24, 2016 Share #15 Posted January 24, 2016 I have owned hundreds of painted flight jackets over 35 years.I do not like the painting at all it is very similar to the crap that came out of England in the eighties.It is not the same but similar.USMCRecon is correct the back should be more worn in the center.My brother-in-law was a B-17 top ball turret gunner and had a fully painted A-2 from the 390th bomb Group.The only place that showed any heavy wear was the middle back area right where the B-17 was painted.Unless I could hold that jacket in my hands and look at the paint I would not trust it at all.Scotty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VenitHora Posted January 24, 2016 Author Share #16 Posted January 24, 2016 Der Finn, I assume it's the name of the plane, but I could be mistaken. I do know the man was shot down on differently named plane and that there were no other planes in the squadron with that name. It is possible he just added the name on the back of the jacket because he liked it I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Signor Posted January 24, 2016 Share #17 Posted January 24, 2016 757th Bombardment Squadron (Unofficial) is correct ID for the patch . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lobojones Posted January 24, 2016 Share #18 Posted January 24, 2016 First impression is that the image has been 'touched' up at some point. Would be nice to look at the paint under magnification and see what it looked like. Although there are period correct images similar to that floating around on gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kammo-man Posted January 24, 2016 Share #19 Posted January 24, 2016 A pic of the label would have been good, but from what i can see , the jacket looks original , but as for the paintwork ??? As has been seen on other threads regarding painted A2's ,it is a minefield ! My gut opinion is that the jacket out dates the paintwork ,but that is just my opinion LB what are you talking about ? owen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodes Posted January 24, 2016 Share #20 Posted January 24, 2016 I am leery of the art work on the back as well, but style could be from that era....The style of Disney art work on this music sheet is not far off IMHO... Bodes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlebuddy Posted January 24, 2016 Share #21 Posted January 24, 2016 what are you talking about ? owen In my opinion the paintwork doesn't look correct . Just an opinion Owen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kammo-man Posted January 25, 2016 Share #22 Posted January 25, 2016 Do you collect or have actually handled many painted A-2s ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northcoastaero Posted January 25, 2016 Share #23 Posted January 25, 2016 The 757th BS appears to have flown the B-24H, G, J, L, and M Liberator aircraft from 1943-1945. I looked through some of my B-24 and nose art reference materials and could not find No Use Adolf associated with the aircraft. 2nd Lt. Vernon Jackson was a navigator according to 459thbg.org . MACR 11065 was about the crew of the B-24J Lucky Lady in which 2nd Lt. Jackson was a part of. flicker.com shows a flight jacket belonging to Cpl Lorren Meador. He was with the 757th BS also. Hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlebuddy Posted January 25, 2016 Share #24 Posted January 25, 2016 Do you collect or have actually handled many painted A-2s ? No Owen ,I don't collect painted A2's but I do own a unpainted example . My post was just an opinion In what I can see in the image . If I'm wrong I'm wrong and ill take another learning curve . Do you think the painting is 1940's era ? I'm eager to learn and don't mind learning from my mistakes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doinworkinvans Posted January 25, 2016 Share #25 Posted January 25, 2016 No Owen ,I don't collect painted A2's but I do own a unpainted example . My post was just an opinion In what I can see in the image . If I'm wrong I'm wrong and ill take another learning curve . Do you think the painting is 1940's era ? I'm eager to learn and don't mind learning from my mistakes I haven't owned a painted A-2 either and I can also agree with you that the back painting looks off and a little too fresh. Certainly not 1940s The front MAYBE could pass but certainly doesn't give me peace about it either. I think we can all have opinions, and appears our opinion is on the right track. If not, then we learn! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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