earlymb Posted January 5, 2016 Share #26 Posted January 5, 2016 packing up the weapons 077ee100a5b1df4872e964df7dab1d8b.jpg other examinations... ef2222f5f299f5a46b9761cbfe9d5f7d.jpg The second pic is a FG42. Pretty rare gun now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WW2JAKE Posted January 5, 2016 Share #27 Posted January 5, 2016 The second pic is a FG42. Pretty rare gun now... yes it is! good eye! heres an other picture of that same gun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earlymb Posted January 5, 2016 Share #28 Posted January 5, 2016 Late-war 2nd model with the wooden stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogface72 Posted January 5, 2016 Share #29 Posted January 5, 2016 yeah, it doesn't appear to have a butt plate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronny67 Posted January 6, 2016 Share #30 Posted January 6, 2016 The butt plate is present. The Type G FG42 featured a simple stamped and ribbed butt plate, slightly recessed into the butt stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted January 8, 2016 Share #31 Posted January 8, 2016 and a personal favorite taken around April of 1945 a sergeant in the Walther Factory in Zella-Mehlis looking at unfinished weapons 0908a7f675905769f2c108b6a248cf37.jpg The guns in that photo are fully finished. They are Machinen Karabiner 1942 (Walther), or MKb42(W). It was one of the designs competing for acceptance as the new 8mm Kurz rifle. It eventually lost to the MKb42(H). That rifle evolved into the Sturmgewehr 44. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WW2JAKE Posted January 8, 2016 Share #32 Posted January 8, 2016 The guns in that photo are fully finished. They are Machinen Karabiner 1942 (Walther), or MKb42(W). It was one of the designs competing for acceptance as the new 8mm Kurz rifle. It eventually lost to the MKb42(H). That rifle evolved into the Sturmgewehr 44. they might be fully operational but unfinished could refer to the minor details or they hadn't been tested by Walther to ensure they were properly functioning. Any number of reasons could label them as unfinished. Which according to the documentation from the original picture, they are unfinished... these ones specifically are said, that they were intended to be sent out to Volkssturm units. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksp45 Posted January 10, 2016 Share #33 Posted January 10, 2016 its an other attachment for curving down instead of the side 12471478_981725025231871_7179039232675032676_o.jpg thats a grenade launcher use to shoot from cover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WW2JAKE Posted January 10, 2016 Share #34 Posted January 10, 2016 thats a grenade launcher use to shoot from cover this one does have the grenade attachment on it, there is one for just shooting. This one shown in the picture would likely work without a grenade as it was the same concept as a rifle grenade because of course. It was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted January 11, 2016 Share #35 Posted January 11, 2016 they might be fully operational but unfinished could refer to the minor details or they hadn't been tested by Walther to ensure they were properly functioning. Any number of reasons could label them as unfinished. Which according to the documentation from the original picture, they are unfinished... these ones specifically are said, that they were intended to be sent out to Volkssturm units. Production was stopped in early 1943, after just 200 were manufactured, and they never left the factory. A few trials guns were sent to the German weapons testing commission, but the rest stayed at the factory. I wouldn't trust the documentation from the original picture, as the ones taking the picture weren't German. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlok Posted January 12, 2016 Share #36 Posted January 12, 2016 Aberdeen Proving Ground had the German design in their small arms museum...was nice to see one close up....the descrition said it was designed for use around tanks and such.... I always made sure to check it out whenever I stopped by the museum! It was one of many great items, but I always thought it was a really cool piece. It's a shame it all moved...its 5 minutes from my front door to the front door of the museum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STG44 Posted January 12, 2016 Share #37 Posted January 12, 2016 Here's a few more from the same evaluation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodes Posted January 12, 2016 Share #38 Posted January 12, 2016 it didnt work too well either.... After a few rounds, the bullets would come out through the bend in the krumluff's barrel....Bodes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronny67 Posted January 13, 2016 Share #39 Posted January 13, 2016 I am surprised the mods have let this completely german weapons thread continue this long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 13, 2016 Share #40 Posted January 13, 2016 I'm just more worried about the fact that I see no eye or hearing protection at all in these photos... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WW2JAKE Posted January 13, 2016 Share #41 Posted January 13, 2016 I am surprised the mods have let this completely german weapons thread continue this long. are they not spoils of war? And regardless, they are Americans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFCUSARET Posted February 25, 2016 Share #42 Posted February 25, 2016 The Myth Buster TV Guys bent a barrel 180 degrees and it still worked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuts Posted February 26, 2016 Share #43 Posted February 26, 2016 Any ID on the Major General that is in the photos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rawhide45 Posted February 28, 2016 Share #44 Posted February 28, 2016 Wow, you guys are good. Nothing gets past you guys. Yes, I think it is indeed a Stg44. Here is the second pic I mentioned which should make the ID easier. These look like some Ordnance officers explaining another one of Hitler's secret weapons to the GO. Any ideas on when and where this event took place? US General and his corner shooting gun.jpg Great photo. The instructor is U.S. Ordnance Captain Philip Sharpe. He is the author of "The Rifle in America." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patches Posted February 28, 2016 Share #45 Posted February 28, 2016 Production was stopped in early 1943, after just 200 were manufactured, and they never left the factory. A few trials guns were sent to the German weapons testing commission, but the rest stayed at the factory. I wouldn't trust the documentation from the original picture, as the ones taking the picture weren't German. Hey where's your Cigar Big Al! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted March 4, 2016 Share #46 Posted March 4, 2016 Hey where's your Cigar Big Al! I'm wondering the same. Who's the Secretary of Cigar Distribution around here? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STG44 Posted March 15, 2016 Share #47 Posted March 15, 2016 Any ID on the Major General that is in the photos? It's Major General Henry Sayler, chief ordnance officer of the ETO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdk0911 Posted March 15, 2016 Share #48 Posted March 15, 2016 heres some more of the examinations KiH2xCw.jpg865906.jpg and a personal favorite taken around April of 1945 a sergeant in the Walther Factory in Zella-Mehlis looking at unfinished weapons 0908a7f675905769f2c108b6a248cf37.jpg awesome picture - and these go for around $20,000 a piece these days so a lot of money sitting on that table Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STG44 Posted March 15, 2016 Share #49 Posted March 15, 2016 awesome picture - and these go for around $20,000 a piece these days so a lot of money sitting on that table Much more than $20,000 a piece. The guns on the table are MKb 42(W)'s. The MKb 42(W) competed against the MKb 42(H). The (W) model lost to the (H) so they're weren't that many to survive. There are only a few here in the US. If one were to come up for sale it would probably bring $100,000 +. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronny67 Posted March 18, 2016 Share #50 Posted March 18, 2016 Did you guys notice the crate of mint K43 magazines under the table? Each of those would be $350 here in the states. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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