Charlie Flick Posted January 4, 2016 Share #1 Posted January 4, 2016 I'd love to know the who, the when and the why, but for now I'll just settle for the what. What the heck is General Whatchamacallit shooting here? Regards, Charlie PS I have a second pic that goes along with this scene that I will post after we get an ID on this weapon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wharfmaster Posted January 4, 2016 Share #2 Posted January 4, 2016 It's German. W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronny67 Posted January 4, 2016 Share #3 Posted January 4, 2016 STG44 fitted with an experimental barrel attachment designed to fire around corners for street fighting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WW2JAKE Posted January 4, 2016 Share #4 Posted January 4, 2016 looks like the stg44 Krummlauf attachment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cutiger83 Posted January 4, 2016 Share #5 Posted January 4, 2016 The Krummlauf (English: "curved barrel") is a bent barrel attachment for the Sturmgewehr 44 assault rifle developed by Germany in World War II. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krummlauf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul70 Posted January 4, 2016 Share #6 Posted January 4, 2016 It was first invented for use in armored personnel carriers, later tested on firing around corners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Flick Posted January 4, 2016 Author Share #7 Posted January 4, 2016 Wow, you guys are good. Nothing gets past you guys. Yes, I think it is indeed a Stg44. Here is the second pic I mentioned which should make the ID easier. These look like some Ordnance officers explaining another one of Hitler's secret weapons to the GO. Any ideas on when and where this event took place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WW2JAKE Posted January 4, 2016 Share #8 Posted January 4, 2016 they were examining weapons found at the Walther factory in Zella-Mehlis in 1945 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Flick Posted January 4, 2016 Author Share #9 Posted January 4, 2016 Excellent, Jake. Now I am really going to press my luck and ask what the heck the object is on the table in the foreground? Perhaps a periscope or other type of sighting device? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
268th C.A. Posted January 4, 2016 Share #10 Posted January 4, 2016 it didnt work too well either.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WW2JAKE Posted January 4, 2016 Share #11 Posted January 4, 2016 its an other attachment for curving down instead of the side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WW2JAKE Posted January 4, 2016 Share #12 Posted January 4, 2016 heres some more of the examinationsand a personal favorite taken around April of 1945 a sergeant in the Walther Factory in Zella-Mehlis looking at unfinished weapons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WW2JAKE Posted January 4, 2016 Share #13 Posted January 4, 2016 packing up the weaponsother examinations... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teamski Posted January 4, 2016 Share #14 Posted January 4, 2016 I thought they made curved barrels for Schmeissers too, but I can't find anything on it. IIRC, this contraption is mentioned in Donald Burgett's book Currahee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WW2JAKE Posted January 4, 2016 Share #15 Posted January 4, 2016 bet you know who came back with some cool souvenirs. these guys were free to wander the factory and needless to say kept some stuff haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Flick Posted January 4, 2016 Author Share #16 Posted January 4, 2016 Jake, you are a fountain of knowledge on this event. Thanks for the ID and further information. Great stuff. Looks like this stuff was packed to ship to the Aberdeen Proving Grounds in Maryland. Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copdoc Posted January 4, 2016 Share #17 Posted January 4, 2016 Nest pics. US made a few prototypes M3 SMG with Krummlauf. I was going to look for my pics but if you goggle you can see several. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WW2JAKE Posted January 4, 2016 Share #18 Posted January 4, 2016 I thought they made curved barrels for Schmeissers too, but I can't find anything on it. IIRC, this contraption is mentioned in Donald Burgett's book Currahee. are you thinking of the american version? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WW2JAKE Posted January 4, 2016 Share #19 Posted January 4, 2016 Nest pics. US made a few prototypes M3 SMG with Krummlauf. I was going to look for my pics but if you goggle you can see several. what a coincidence lol. i believe some saw korea though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copdoc Posted January 5, 2016 Share #20 Posted January 5, 2016 Brillunt minds done thunk a like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantomfixer Posted January 5, 2016 Share #21 Posted January 5, 2016 Aberdeen Proving Ground had the German design in their small arms museum...was nice to see one close up....the descrition said it was designed for use around tanks and such.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul70 Posted January 5, 2016 Share #22 Posted January 5, 2016 Found this pick for the intended design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copdoc Posted January 5, 2016 Share #23 Posted January 5, 2016 Neat pic. So you can make a coffee table without damaging the guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piper Cub Posted January 5, 2016 Share #24 Posted January 5, 2016 These are cool inventions in theory but I don't think they lasted long in practice. There was one sold a few months back at an auction that went for a pretty impressive price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WW2JAKE Posted January 5, 2016 Share #25 Posted January 5, 2016 These are cool inventions in theory but I don't think they lasted long in practice. There was one sold a few months back at an auction that went for a pretty impressive price. it's my understanding that while being a good idea in theory that they were actually quite effective against infantry from inside a tank. but not because they curved the bullet but because when the bullet hit the curve it shattered creating a shotgun effect which peppered anyone in the path. also eliminating the need to aim directly at whatever you were shooting at but just in the general direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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