mccooper Posted December 14, 2015 #1 Posted December 14, 2015 Recently acquired a uniform named to Oley Read, Co. A, 40th engineers, with named occupation as painter. House or artist? The 40th was the US Army's group of camouflage experts, and I would love to know more about them, including their personnel, as they recruited American artists for the job. Google and book searches to date have turned up only one name, an artist by the name of Kerr Eby, very well-known for his later book "War." Any bios of him I found did not contain any meaningful info re: his time in the 40th. Do any of you fellows have any data on the 40th? Or, could you steer me in the right direction? Looks like an interesting topic to research further. Thank you. mccooper
Salvage Sailor Posted December 15, 2015 #2 Posted December 15, 2015 Aloha mccooper, Have you checked out the National Archives website https://www.archives.gov/publications/prologue/2012/spring/camouflage.html There is a well researched article in Prologue magazine which should give you some info on the 40th.
mccooper Posted December 15, 2015 Author #3 Posted December 15, 2015 Aloha back to you, Salvage Sailor- And a huge "thank you" for this information. The article gives me much info on the 40th, and sources for further investigation at the National Archives. I see there is a daily diary for the 40th, Co. A. Fascinating topic which just got better! Thanks again! mccooper
mccooper Posted December 18, 2015 Author #4 Posted December 18, 2015 Found this book, which also gives a very good account of the 40th in the chapter on the Engineer Corps, "Essayons." mccooper
mccooper Posted December 25, 2015 Author #5 Posted December 25, 2015 Further reading indicates two KIA in the 40th: sculptor Harry Thrasher and artist Everett Herter. mccoooper
cwnorma Posted December 26, 2015 #6 Posted December 26, 2015 Great Thread! My Great-grandfather was a corporal in 40th Engineers, Co A. I used to ride my bicycle to my Grandparents' house to spend afternoons with him when I was in Jr High School. He gave me his WW1 uniform, and started me down this road of fascination with that particular conflict. Pop's uniform Photo of Pop--taken in Asbury Park, NJ before he left for France Like all members of this unit, Pop was a professional artist. This is one of his watercolors from his wartime sketchbook.
cwnorma Posted December 26, 2015 #7 Posted December 26, 2015 Because of Pop, I also have an affinity for this unit. I've seen a good amount repro patches but over the years I have come across very little material related to this small unit. One interesting item is this engraved watch: It is missing the band, still runs when wound, Waltham with a SS wire-lug case It probably could use a cleaning though... Engraved: "1st Lieut A. B. Embury 40th Eng A.E.F"
mccooper Posted December 27, 2015 Author #8 Posted December 27, 2015 cwnorma- Thanks for sharing your family info. Also glad to see the watch. Is it yours now? Here is some data on Embury. Now hope to find out who the artists were. mccooper Aymar Embury II.pdf
mccooper Posted December 27, 2015 Author #9 Posted December 27, 2015 Speaking of artists, attached is a list of those whom I have been able to identify to date; a distinguished group whet you read their bios. mccooper Known Member of the 40th Engineers.pdf
trenchbuff Posted December 27, 2015 #10 Posted December 27, 2015 Amazing uniforms gentlemen! Chris, thanks for sharing the family connection with your group.
Ivydiv Posted August 15, 2023 #14 Posted August 15, 2023 Brooke, great find. Glad to see you are still at it. See you at the MAPS show. Dave
Michael the Young AEF Guy Posted March 4, 2024 #15 Posted March 4, 2024 Hello, wanted to ask a question & join the conversation. Here's a helmet I picked up at SOS this year, 40th Engineer Regiment with a strange flash/insignia on the right side. 3 black bars below a thick black bar. I thought it could be YMCA/Red Cross related but I wanted to gauge public opinion. Thanks in advance!
vtoldstuff Posted January 10 #16 Posted January 10 Here’s a 1919 photo of 40th Engineers, Company K. Marked “The Pictorial News Co., NY (No. 334).”
atb Posted January 10 #17 Posted January 10 On 3/4/2024 at 3:58 PM, Michael the Young AEF Guy said: Hello, wanted to ask a question & join the conversation. Here's a helmet I picked up at SOS this year, 40th Engineer Regiment with a strange flash/insignia on the right side. 3 black bars below a thick black bar. I thought it could be YMCA/Red Cross related but I wanted to gauge public opinion. Thanks in advance! Looks like a British helmet marking. Maybe the 40th Engineers had some of their own helmet markings.
Lind007 Posted January 11 #18 Posted January 11 Heres two more examples. These are part of a very large 40th eng group I pulled out of the woods last year.
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