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Fatigue Uniforms, Part 1, US Army Color Insignia


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The next two belonged to the same Medical Service Corps officer. Neither shows any sign of ever having any SSI applied. They were obviously worn mid-60s as the first one has full color name and Army tapes and the second has subdued tapes.

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Cold weather shirt. In ten years of collecting, this is the only badged example I could find with color insignia. When I was in during the 1980's, these were typically worn with just the US Army insignia, and sometimes a name tape.

One of my biggest regrets in collecting is a fully-patched wool shirt like this I had several years ago with what I assume was very high quality Korean theater made subdued full Colonel and Artillery collar insignia, 2nd Infantry Division SSI, name and Army tapes and basic jump wings and CIB. It was beautiful but I foolishly removed removed all of the insignia. Being a full colonel, he was probably the 2nd ID artillery commander and I probably could have traced the owner if I had kept it intact. I don't even have any pictures of it that I'm aware of.

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That's a real strange one, note the Cav and Ranks are Merrowed Edge, not seen on uniforms before 1968-69. One would say it was worn in country at that time, but what about the tapes? Still maybe worn in country 69 etc and it's one of those rare anomalies or it's of course a put together ach who knows :lol:.

 

One Scheiderer listed on the base, a draftee, it ain't him.

 

 

Vietnam Veterans Database

Name: SCHEIDERER TODD R

Branch: ARMY

Rate: E04

Rank: CORPORAL OR SPECIALIST

MOS: 11B

MOS Title: Infantryman

Entered: 7007

Discharged: 720307

Service Number: State: MICHIGAN

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Great stuff gwb, if you would like me to look up any of the Vietnam worn or Vietnam Vet ones to see if there on Viet Vet Data base, let me know via this topic so other can share in the fun, got to hurry though as the data base goes off line forever in a couple of weeks.

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That's a real strange one, note the Cav and Ranks are Merrowed Edge, not seen on uniforms before 1968-69. One would say it was worn in country at that time, but what about the tapes? Still maybe worn in country 69 etc and it's one of those rare anomalies or it's of course a put together ach who knows :lol:.

 

One Scheiderer listed on the base, a draftee, it ain't him.

 

 

Vietnam Veterans Database

Name: SCHEIDERER TODD R

Branch: ARMY

Rate: E04

Rank: CORPORAL OR SPECIALIST

MOS: 11B

MOS Title: Infantryman

Entered: 7007

Discharged: 720307

Service Number: State: MICHIGAN

Yes, I wondered about the merrowed edge patches. Here is a closer view.

 

 

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When did enlisted rank move from the sleeve to the collar? I know it was after the switch from full color to subdued but how long after?

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When did enlisted rank move from the sleeve to the collar? I know it was after the switch from full color to subdued but how long after?

As I recall, we went to Black/OD cut-edge chevrons on the sleeves mid 67 and then switched to pin on collar rank late in the year or in 68.

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Here's a topic that goes a ways explaining the color vs subdued, you'll see a July 1970 date for all subdued, this is correct, no full color stuff after that date was permitted.

 

http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/index.php?/topic/197601-when-did-the-army-begin-using-black-gold-us-army-tapes/

 

 

Subdued stuff in the RVN however was different, those things started to be seen as early as late 65, maybe a little earlier, here it was either dyed color insignia, or theater made, it was in the late summer early fall of 1966 that the first U.S. made machine embroidered on "Twill" shoulder patches and Enlisted men's sleeve ranks start to be seen there, plus the Army in the RVN was always ahead of the game in regards to subdued collar EM ranks, that starts little by little in mid to late 67, here the Army decided it was a good idea, and decides to adopt them eventually Army Wide.

 

http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/index.php?/topic/197601-when-did-the-army-begin-using-black-gold-us-army-tapes/

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Cold weather shirt. In ten years of collecting, this is the only badged example I could find with color insignia. When I was in during the 1980's, these were typically worn with just the US Army insignia, and sometimes a name tape.

Obviously not in my collection, but here are a couple of cool photos of Vietnam Medal of Honor recipient Roger Donlon wearing a fully patched wool shirt as commandant of the 2nd Infantry Division's Advanced Combat Training Academy in Korea in 1967.

 

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Here is one of the woolen tops that came with a pair of M-1951 Wool Field Trousers that have been modified into ski pants.

 

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Ski pants modifications:

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I've posted this one before, but figured it fit into this thread:

 

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Vietnam Veterans Database

Name: CZIPRUSZ JOHN S

Branch: ARMY

Rate: O03

Rank: CAPTAIN

MOS: 1542

MOS Title: Infantry Unit Commander

Entered: 6609

Discharged: 770701

Service Number:

State: UNKNOWN

Race: CAUCASIAN

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Here is a field jacket that I rescued from a vintage clothing store. One of our members researched this and the individual was a Vietnam veteran. Note the cut edge 101st patch. The US Army tape was missing, but there was an unused one folded into one of the pockets.

 

I have to admit to avoiding field jackets as they took up additional storage space.

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Here is a field jacket that I rescued from a vintage clothing store. One of our members researched this and the individual was a Vietnam veteran. Note the cut edge 101st patch. The US Army tape was missing, but there was an unused one folded into one of the pockets.

 

I have to admit to avoiding field jackets as they took up additional storage space.

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Vietnam Veterans Database

Name: TOOP HAROLD V

Branch: ARMY

Rate: O02

Rank: 1ST LT

MOS: 1542

MOS Title: Infantry Unit Commander

Entered: 6607

Discharged:

Service Number:

State: UNKNOWN

Race: CAUCASIAN

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