Navybean Posted November 6, 2015 Share #1 Posted November 6, 2015 I have a friend who just found a FP-45 Liberator pistol. He asked me what I thought about it but I do not have much experience with them. I took some pics of it and hoping I can get some opinions on the piece. It seems to be rough on top of the piece, not sure if it effects he weapon or not? Please see below thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAGGERMAN Posted November 6, 2015 Share #2 Posted November 6, 2015 Looks good from the views you have posted. The new made repros are firearms also only they are maker marked and have a serial # on the trigger guard and that is required by law. The guns are crude but really slick. Nice looking pistol if it un-numbered original. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garandomatic Posted November 6, 2015 Share #3 Posted November 6, 2015 I think I read somewhere that another difference between an original and repro is that the originals were smoothbore, but the repros had to have riflings because of federal law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefighter Posted November 6, 2015 Share #4 Posted November 6, 2015 That is really cool. How much are they asking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navybean Posted November 6, 2015 Author Share #5 Posted November 6, 2015 Good information thanks It did not have a # or makers mark and the trigger guard is unmarked and not polished (like a name was removed) Not sure what my buddy is doing with it yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navybean Posted November 6, 2015 Author Share #6 Posted November 6, 2015 I think I read somewhere that another difference between an original and repro is that the originals were smoothbore, but the repros had to have riflings because of federal law. Looks like it is a smooth bore, no riffling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnsonlmg41 Posted November 7, 2015 Share #7 Posted November 7, 2015 Looks correct to me. I've had two or 3 of them over the years. If it becomes for sale let me know. The wax coated box and goofy looking instruction sheet is a substantial add if present with the gun. It is the real deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navybean Posted November 8, 2015 Author Share #8 Posted November 8, 2015 Looks correct to me. I've had two or 3 of them over the years. If it becomes for sale let me know. The wax coated box and goofy looking instruction sheet is a substantial add if present with the gun. It is the real deal. Looks like it is just the pistol no box or paperwork. Great pistol has some WW2 alunimum 45 acp ammo in the grip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefighter Posted November 8, 2015 Share #9 Posted November 8, 2015 Sweet pistol.I would love to have one, not to shoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1SG_1st_Cav Posted November 9, 2015 Share #10 Posted November 9, 2015 Very interesting if it's real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retread12345 Posted November 9, 2015 Share #11 Posted November 9, 2015 Looks like the real deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navybean Posted November 10, 2015 Author Share #12 Posted November 10, 2015 Yes I believe it's right as rain. Thanks for looking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron norman Posted November 17, 2015 Share #13 Posted November 17, 2015 Hate to horn in BUT they have become very scarce and would bring above 1000.00 now Ron Norman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nirvana Posted November 24, 2015 Share #14 Posted November 24, 2015 I think I read somewhere that another difference between an original and repro is that the originals were smoothbore, but the repros had to have riflings because of federal law. This is 100% correct. A guy that I know made (makes?) the repros. The rifling isn't deep, but its there. ATF didn't seem to like a smoothbore weapon with a short barrel.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefighter Posted November 24, 2015 Share #15 Posted November 24, 2015 This is 100% correct. A guy that I know made (makes?) the repros. The rifling isn't deep, but its there. ATF didn't seem to like a smoothbore weapon with a short barrel.... LOL!! Hmmmm I wonder why??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garandomatic Posted November 25, 2015 Share #16 Posted November 25, 2015 Ithaca auto and burglar comes to mind! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefighter Posted November 25, 2015 Share #17 Posted November 25, 2015 Ithaca auto and burglar comes to mind! Interesting. I don't live that far from Ithaca, I never heard of them before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navybean Posted March 21, 2018 Author Share #18 Posted March 21, 2018 Hey getting back to the subject of liberator pistols, has anybody had expirence shipping these type of pistols? Since they do not have serial numbers can they be shipped? Can you send them to FFL dealers? C and R dealers? Thanks for any input you can share with me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
everforward Posted March 21, 2018 Share #19 Posted March 21, 2018 Looks correct to me. I've had two or 3 of them over the years. If it becomes for sale let me know. The wax coated box and goofy looking instruction sheet is a substantial add if present with the gun. It is the real deal. I handled one like that about 20 years ago, flat new and with the box and instructions you mention....it was selling for $695 then, about the price for a 98% WW2 1911A1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navybean Posted March 21, 2018 Author Share #20 Posted March 21, 2018 I handled one like that about 20 years ago, flat new and with the box and instructions you mention....it was selling for $695 then, about the price for a 98% WW2 1911A1. Thanks for the info, I believe they have gone up in price as I understand they can be difficult to find, just curious if they can be sold across state lines? If so how you would handle paperwork? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72psb Posted March 21, 2018 Share #21 Posted March 21, 2018 Treat it like any other firearm.Ship from FFL dealer to another FFL dealer in destination state. Go to dealer,fill out 4473,back ground check and there you go.You will probably have a transfer fee on both ends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
everforward Posted March 21, 2018 Share #22 Posted March 21, 2018 Thanks for the info, I believe they have gone up in price as I understand they can be difficult to find, just curious if they can be sold across state lines? If so how you would handle paperwork? Oh yeah, Id say the value on these has increased significantly in the last 20 years without doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airborne53 Posted March 21, 2018 Share #23 Posted March 21, 2018 hello it's original , look like old french demil with removed pin , pin cross chamber and not allowed to put cartridge olivier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill in VA Posted March 21, 2018 Share #24 Posted March 21, 2018 Hey getting back to the subject of liberator pistols, has anybody had expirence shipping these type of pistols? Since they do not have serial numbers can they be shipped? Can you send them to FFL dealers? C and R dealers? Thanks for any input you can share with me If it;s an original it's a C&R and can go to a Type 03 FFL (C&R FFL.) There's no need to worry about a lack of serial number either. They weren't assigned one by the manufacturer. IIRC, it wasn't until the 1968 GCA that handguns were required to have a serial number. When I take in an older firearm that never had a serial number I log it as "NSN" (No Serial Number") and fill in the rest as appropriate. HTH There were a fair number of original FP45s at this year's Show of Shows. Prices seemed to run from around $1500 to $2500. I found one of VOCO's reproduction FP45s with box, cartoon, and stick for $450. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navybean Posted March 22, 2018 Author Share #25 Posted March 22, 2018 hello it's original , look like old french demil with removed pin , pin cross chamber and not allowed to put cartridge Olivier Oliver I am not thinking this one is a dewat or demil as it functions just fine, I took some additional pictures and the barrel is fully opened, the weapon cocks and fires. Thanks all for the input. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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