36th Tank Company DI? Nope!

[36-tex]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/US-Army-36th-Tank-Company-Armor-pin-DI-DUI-CREST-SB-No-Hallmark-/191691002798?hash=item2ca1ac93ae

 

 

Someone is going to learn an expensive lesson! Another example of why collectors should be ASMIC members. This is the DI for the 36th ID HQ and is a $20 item, not over $100. I might have to contact the people who lose this and offer mine up for that price.

[patches]

Way over priced

 

But in a manor of speaking the DI could of been worn by the pre war 36th Tank Company, which was a Divisional unit and would wear these NG DIV HQ DIs I would imagine. National Guard Divisions had Tank Companies in them, the Regular Divisions too, floating around are photos of the Hawaiian Division,s tank company posted somewhere away's back. Started in the late 20s, maybe early 30s??? not sure when they came in on the TO&E Divisions. The ones in from the NG were of course broken up after Federalization and used to form Separate Tank Battalions.

 

The more well know of these activation's was the 192nd Tank Battalion (Light) and the 194th Tank Battalion (Light), 192nd Tk Bn formed from the Tank Companies of the 32nd, 33rd, 37th and 38th Divisions, the 194th Tk Bn from the Tank Companies of the 34th, 35th and 40th Divisions. both these Battalions were sent to the Philippines (Minus B Company in the 194th Tk Bn) were they were wiped out. The 36th Tank Company, 36th Division, they were used to form the newly activated 193rd Tank Battalion along with the Tank Companies of the 30th, 31st and 45th Division's Tank Companies, it seen action in the Gilberts and on Okinawa during the war.

[Tankpatches]

There never was a NG 36 Tank Co. !!!

 

The DI in question is a WW2 piece for the 36 Div HQ

 

I've included a copy of the actual tank units prior to 1940

which also has my personal notes,saying which companies/units had Di's!!

[patches]

There never was a NG 36 Tank Co. !!!

 

The DI in question is a WW2 piece for the 36 Div HQ

 

I've included a copy of the actual tank units prior to 1940

which also has my personal notes,saying which companies/units had Di's!!

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This source below as well as Shelby Stanton's Order of Battle WWII gives the 36th Tank Company out of Houston as being assigned to the 193rd Tank Battalion as it's C Company.

 

https://books.google.com/books?id=VItFKmOx8f0C&pg=PP114&lpg=PP114&dq=36th+tank+company+193rd+tank+battalion&source=bl&ots=hmmPSc9tld&sig=rI16HseHFL4sitXRFhn5POoIspM&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CC8Q6AEwA2oVChMI9P2ssMuNyAIVzHg-Ch0wTA4a#v=onepage&q=36th%20tank%20company%20193rd%20tank%20battalion&f=false

 

And then we have this site here.

 

http://www.texasmilitaryforcesmuseum.org/1940/tankord.htm

[rlyoun3910]

Good compilation. I was in G Co 143rd Infantry (Ranger) way back when and we were quartered in the Houston Light Guard Armory on Caroline St Houston near a Keebler cookie factory. There was an old book collection of pre- and post WW II library. in the collection were year books from the 36th Tank Company. John Lemur was our historian. Not sure what happened to that stuff as G Co moved some years later to the air base south of town. Lost touch with all those guys.

[patches]

Good compilation. I was in G Co 143rd Infantry (Ranger) way back when and we were quartered in the Houston Light Guard Armory on Caroline St Houston near a Keebler cookie factory. There was an old book collection of pre- and post WW II library. in the collection were year books from the 36th Tank Company. John Lemur was our historian. Not sure what happened to that stuff as G Co moved some years later to the air base south of town. Lost touch with all those guys.

Eh that's too bad, there probably still in the possession of some Tex NG entity I imagine, maybe the very same Texas Military Forces folks. Unless there's a complete screw up and or utter carelessness, these things are not the type of things that are tossed out with the garbage.

[patches]

There never was a NG 36 Tank Co. !!!

 

The DI in question is a WW2 piece for the 36 Div HQ

 

I've included a copy of the actual tank units prior to 1940

which also has my personal notes,saying which companies/units had Di's!!

26.jpg

Tankpatches. On your page of Tank Companies we see you added in the margin 34th Tk Co Minnesota, which is not listed in print, also missing besides the 36th Tk Co is the 44th Tk Co, the 44th Division did indeed have one also. It's listed here in this book which has a GOOGLE Book posting.

 

https://books.google.com/books?id=YOeyAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA186&lpg=PA186&dq=41st+Tank+Company+41st+Division+1940&source=bl&ots=0rZ2tJHX2c&sig=EORSdS6pnzEkh0T6Ub2uAHCb82U&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CEIQ6AEwBmoVChMIpP2tod-TyAIVxVs-Ch2JAAoA#v=onepage&q=41st%20Tank%20Company%2041st%20Division%201940&f=false

 

On the notations for the DIs of these companies, do you actually have them in your collection? If so could you please post them for us in a new topic here in this forum?

[rlyoun3910]

I just started collecting Texas NG crests, like the collection Joe Massaro has on display up at Camp Mabry, Austin. I'm not on personal terms with the State military historians. The docents at the museum are great volunteers. Each time I've gone up to Austin on a Saturday I sat and spoke with an older fella named Joe who was in the 111th Medical Co/Battalion. Quite the guy and bully for him to volunteer at such a great place. It's been rather difficult to get a list of all Texas NG units, certainly more difficult to get pictues of either patches (SSI) or crests (DUI). Joe Massaro remains a trusted source. I knew Dr. Stanton and sat through a couple interviews with him as I was in several Special Forces units a long time ago. I really liked him and he got me interested in military history. Strange how things unfold and what piques your interest. Dr. Stanton was very detailed, very methodical, despite being an officer himself.