Klaxon Posted September 11, 2015 Share #1 Posted September 11, 2015 Hi, Got this killer JJ from an advanced collector along with a bunch of other RVN camies in trade for a Canadian WWI grouping. I like the non typical placement of the jump wings. I have seen other Long Thanh SF soldiers with this exact set up and pocket patch. Also the exclusion of the SF ssi on the left sleeve. Wondering if any SF/SOG experts have any info on this NCO by the name of Beaudrie. I found only one late war SOG vet from Michigan with that last name. First name Bob. But that was just from my limited resources. Was this gent an instructor? Team member? I wish I knew. Unfortunately I don't know enough about MACVSOG to make the right connection as to what type of SF soldier would have worn a jacket with these patches. Members thoughts and comments would be much appreciated. Cheers, Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaxon Posted September 11, 2015 Author Share #2 Posted September 11, 2015 Detail of Long Thanh bevo pocket patch. Pocket was partially removed and patch applied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaxon Posted September 11, 2015 Author Share #3 Posted September 11, 2015 ARVN hand embroidered jump wings and stencilled name tape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaxon Posted September 11, 2015 Author Share #4 Posted September 11, 2015 US jump wings and Nylon US Army tape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaxon Posted September 11, 2015 Author Share #5 Posted September 11, 2015 SF combat patch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaxon Posted September 11, 2015 Author Share #6 Posted September 11, 2015 Wing detail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaxon Posted September 11, 2015 Author Share #7 Posted September 11, 2015 Reverse of stitching. Gathered and worn just the way you want to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaxon Posted September 11, 2015 Author Share #8 Posted September 11, 2015 more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaxon Posted September 11, 2015 Author Share #9 Posted September 11, 2015 left sleeve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaxon Posted September 11, 2015 Author Share #10 Posted September 11, 2015 Labels with hand written 28. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaxon Posted September 11, 2015 Author Share #11 Posted September 11, 2015 Thanks very much to the forum member who was nice enough to share his info thus shedding some light as to who this jacket belonged to and their MACVSOG service at the time. Beaudrie, Robert SSG B-53 Radio Operator 06/25/70 06/07/71 Cheers, Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrei Posted September 11, 2015 Share #12 Posted September 11, 2015 Beautiful jacket! Really, I am jealous! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaxon Posted September 11, 2015 Author Share #13 Posted September 11, 2015 Thanks Andrei. I was pretty pleased to get it. Got a few other nice pieces in the trade that'll post shortly. Cheers, Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.S. Posted September 11, 2015 Share #14 Posted September 11, 2015 Good looking jacket, another line on my wish list! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaxon Posted September 11, 2015 Author Share #15 Posted September 11, 2015 Thanks RangerDanger, yeah list gets shorter and longer all at the same time. Cheers, Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaxon Posted September 11, 2015 Author Share #16 Posted September 11, 2015 Cool pic of SF Rigger Spec4 Silva wearing a JJ with similar patch set up and CLT pocket patch. Photo is from modernforces.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaxon Posted September 11, 2015 Author Share #17 Posted September 11, 2015 Here's another cool photo from SOG veteran Jim Hruska"s interview on modernforces.com You can see Capt. Hruska wearing a JJ with what looks like the same CLT patch. Also has the same lack of SSI on the left sleeve. Just 2 arcs. Ranger or Recon and Airborne I would guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
63 RECON Posted September 12, 2015 Share #18 Posted September 12, 2015 yes very nice JJ, killer ARVN wings. At first glance i thought it as an SCU patch. Ive nver seen a CLT patched JJ before. I wonder if the reason to have the wings further out was so they where not hidden by the shirt collar and to show them off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaxon Posted September 12, 2015 Author Share #19 Posted September 12, 2015 Hi 63Recon, Thanks very much. Yes totally looks like the SCU patch. Hard to tell the two apart in period photos. Yes definitely the reason for having the wings on the out side edge of the tapes. Surprising it wasn't more of a common practice. Makes sense you'd want to see them. You have any idea why Beaudrie and the Capt in the photo have no SSI on the left sleeve but have the SF combat patch? Was that a SOG thing? Cheers, Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
63 RECON Posted September 12, 2015 Share #20 Posted September 12, 2015 I'm actually unsure as to why Capt Hruska is not wearing a SF SSI and even if he has one on the other side. Could have just been the thing to do at CTL There has been an SSI on yours so maybe it was just taken off to use someplace else. but others might have a different view on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhk Posted September 12, 2015 Share #21 Posted September 12, 2015 Hi 63Recon, Thanks very much. Yes totally looks like the SCU patch. Hard to tell the two apart in period photos. Yes definitely the reason for having the wings on the out side edge of the tapes. Surprising it wasn't more of a common practice. Makes sense you'd want to see them. You have any idea why Beaudrie and the Capt in the photo have no SSI on the left sleeve but have the SF combat patch? Was that a SOG thing? Cheers, Matt Matt, its most likely because timeframe was when SF troops were under USARV so they wore usarv patch with airborne arc on left sleeve. Also ballcaps were used instead of beret's that time Mikko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchcollector Posted September 12, 2015 Share #22 Posted September 12, 2015 I was doing some research a few days ago and came across this interesting pic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
63 RECON Posted September 12, 2015 Share #23 Posted September 12, 2015 Mikko, I think you're right the time frame seems right. you think this might have been prepped for a usarv patch? Looks like the ghost of an SF SSI. Patch collector, that is a good pic, looks like CLT patches with airborne arcs being worn by the indigs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
63 RECON Posted September 12, 2015 Share #24 Posted September 12, 2015 Members of RT New York. 1970 or after. Notice no SF ssi and similar position of jump wings of guy on right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaxon Posted September 12, 2015 Author Share #25 Posted September 12, 2015 Hi Patchcollector, Mikko and Recon 63, That's a great pic, thanks for posting. So much going on. Love the spray painted spot camo on the one ARVN, the CLT used on the sleeve with arc as opposed to wearing as a pocket patch and the odd looking (possibly albino) blond Viet soldier at the bottom right. It would seem logical and it come to mind that it would be the USARVN but the SF patch was removed a long time ago. The jj is heavily worn and faded. If the patch was taken off to switch out for another there most most certainly be a shadow of the SF ssi. All the patches have been there for a long timeso he worn it with that set up I'd say since his arrival at Long Thanh. I was thinking that perhaps along with the unique way of wearing the wings on the outside edge of the tapes, Long Thanh instructors didn't wear patches on the left sleeve and the CLT pocket patch acted as the current unit identifier? Cheers, Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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