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On 5/19/2020 at 10:04 AM, seanmc1114 said:

Another picture from the National Guard Militia Museum of New Jersey Facebook page. Their branch insignia looks like Infantry but I can't identify the DUI. 

 

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Could it be the 372nd Infantry Regiment?  The 1st Separate Battalion was reorganized into the 1st Battalion, 372nd in 1940.

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On 5/19/2020 at 7:08 AM, seanmc1114 said:

119th Observation Squadron assigned to the 44th Infantry Division of the New Jersey National Guard.

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Wow here's one of their DIs up for sale right now, lists it as LION & WNGS Badge LOL, no mention of as a Jersey NG unit, but the cat's out of the bag as there are as of this posting 6 bids on it.

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/283875350302

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3 hours ago, mysteriousoozlefinch said:

 

Could it be the 372nd Infantry Regiment?  The 1st Separate Battalion was reorganized into the 1st Battalion, 372nd in 1940.

That will be the 1st Separate Infantry Battalion (Colored) New Jersey National Guard and it had it's own DI in the 30s, a one with a Tiger Head with a 1 on a scalloped shield with a scroll with motto SANS PEUR (Can't find a image of it), but this DI on their hats is not that, so it does indeed look like one of the types of DIs for the 372nd Infantry, as the 1st Sep Inf Bn (Clr) was consolidated into the reactivated regiment 12 December 1940 and was stationed for awhile at Camden before it was federalized in March 1941.

 

The DI looks like this version no? It's described s a GEMSCO Pin Back (No other images of it are available anymore).

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1 hour ago, patches said:

That will be the 1st Separate Infantry Battalion (Colored) New Jersey National Guard and it had it's own DI in the 30s, a one with a Tiger Head with a 1 on a scalloped shield with a scroll with motto SANS PEUR (Can't find a image of it), but this DI on their hats is not that, so it does indeed look like one of the types of DIs for the 372nd Infantry, as the 1st Sep Inf Bn (Clr) was consolidated into the reactivated regiment 12 December 1940 and was stationed for awhile at Camden before it was federalized in March 1941.

 

The DI looks like this version no? It's described s a GEMSCO Pin Back (No other images of it are available anymore).

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That is indeed the one I was talking about.

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Here's one, sometime in the 1930s, a Reservist of the 310th Infantry, 78th Division from New Jersey. He's Captain Thomas B. Protzman MC, and I assume either the regimental surgeon or one of the battalion''s of the regiment's surgeon. Protzman was called to active duty in 1940 and would be by late 1942 a Lieutenant Colonel and given command of the United States Army Hospital Ship Acadia (Wasn't aware the Army ran Hospital Ships, knew they ran Minesweepers and Transport Ships but not Hosptal ones).

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An Unknown DI worn sometime in the mid-sh 20s on the then 1st Lieutenant Kenneth Walker, Walker would go on to be a Brigadier General in WWII and would be awarded the Medal of Honor Posthumously in the Pacfic. So anyone know what DIs these are, tried the Bomb units he was in in this period but came up zero.

 

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1932 Summer encampment of the Albany Guards, Company H, 121st Infantry Regiment, Georgia National Guard at Camp Clifford J. Foster, Florida. Note that some officers are wearing the 121st Infantry DUI facing to the right while some wear it facing to the left.

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Col. John M. Morgan, the commanding officer of Ft. Brown, Texas wearing the number 12 on his Cavalry branch insignia. However, the DUI does not look like the 12th Cavalry DUI to me. You decide.

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This is actually from 1941, but I think it's very interesting. Colonel Theodore Roosevelt, Jr. wearing the DUI of the 26th Infantry Regiment and his son, Quentin, wearing the DUI of the 33rd Field Artillery Battalion.

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On 7/3/2020 at 11:34 AM, seanmc1114 said:

Col. John M. Morgan, the commanding officer of Ft. Brown, Texas wearing the number 12 on his Cavalry branch insignia. However, the DUI does not look like the 12th Cavalry DUI to me. You decide.

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Thanks to Wailuna for identifying this as the first design of the 12th Cavalry DUI.

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The late great Jamas Sawicki when he was a little Private in 1938, he was then an Artilleryman with the 6th Field Artillery Regiment, 1st Division, Fort Hoyle Maryland, he later switched to Infantry, and fought as a officer in Italy with the 168th Infantry, 34th Red Bull Infantry Division, and in the Korean War in the 9th Infantry, 2nd Infantry Division.

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On 6/13/2020 at 8:14 PM, patches said:

An Unknown DI worn sometime in the mid-sh 20s on the then 1st Lieutenant Kenneth Walker, Walker would go on to be a Brigadier General in WWII and would be awarded the Medal of Honor Posthumously in the Pacfic. So anyone know what DIs these are, tried the Bomb units he was in in this period but came up zero.

 

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DI Effectively IDed as 2nd Bombardment Group. Langley Field Virginia.

 

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Members of the Texas National Guard during President Roosevelt's visit to Fort Worth on June 12, 1936. I believe they are wearing the DUI's of the 144th Infantry Regiment. Was it common practice for enlisted men to wear the DUI's on their collars like that?

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