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Texas National Guard officers from the 71st Infantry Brigade at Camp Bowie; Colonel Nat S. Perrine of 142nd Infantry, Colonel Eugene A. Eversberg, commander of 71st Brigade (still wearing 141st DI from his prior post), and Lieutenant Colonel Miller Ainsworth, commander of 141st Infantry. January 6, 1941

Photo: Fort Worth Star-Telegram https://library.uta.edu/digitalgallery-beta/img/10011807

 

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113th Cavalry on 1st Lieutenant Kenneth Gardiner, possibly Major Ranald B. Engelbeck, and 2nd Lieutenant K.E. Timmons. April 1942.

Photo: Fort Worth Star-Telegram https://library.uta.edu/digitalgallery-beta/img/20058222

 

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124th Cavalry on 1st Lieutenant C.B. Wilson and 2nd Lieutenant B.C. Pearson. November 1, 1941.

Photo: Fort Worth Star-Telegram https://library.uta.edu/digitalgallery-beta/img/20046972

 

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124th Cavalry worn by Sergeant Robert Cranston at his citizenship hearing (an Englishman) on April 23, 1941.

Photo: Fort Worth Star-Telegram https://library.uta.edu/digitalgallery-beta/img/20037991

 

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124th Cavalry, Lieutenant R. W. Darrow of the 1st Squadron. August 5, 1940

Photo: Fort Worth Star-Telegram https://library.uta.edu/digitalgallery-beta/img/20039556

 

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Crowd of stars from the 36th Division on July 26, 1941. Brigadier General Robert O. Whiteaker, 61st Field Artillery Brigade, is wearing the Texas NG DI on his overseas cap.

Photo: Fort Worth Star-Telegram https://library.uta.edu/digitalgallery-beta/img/20039589

 

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Lieutenant Colonel H. M. Carroll, Adjutant General, and Brigadier General John Watt Page, commander of the 71st Infantry Brigade. Page would become Director of Selective Service in Texas. August 3, 1940.

Photo: Fort Worth Star-Telegram https://library.uta.edu/digitalgallery-beta/img/20039549

 

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113th Cavalry worn by Ira L. Ritz, William A. Bauder, Allyn Goemer and Thomas Lyness.

Photo: Fort Worth Star-Telegram https://library.uta.edu/digitalgallery-beta/img/20058219

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The 13th Infantry DI on one George Juskalian circa 1936, at this time the old 13th Infantry was in the 9th Division at Camp Devens Massachusetts, and Juskalian under took his branch training with them.

 

Juskalian an Infantry as you'll see, would be in WWII, Korea and Vietnam, curiously he did not receive a third CIB for advisor duty in Vietnam, I guess he was one of those that slipped by, or he perhaps turned it down as he thought he didn't rate it, or he got one, but didn't wear it for reason number 2.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Juskalian

 

Juskalian in 1956 as Exec of the 74th RCT Ft Devens Mass.

 

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An interesting photo sometime in the mid 30s of a 1st Infantry Pvt with two of the prescribed headgear items of the day, the Service Cap he's wearing and the Campaign Hat he's holding, At this time the 1st Infantry was in the 2nd Division at Ft Sam Houston Texas, individual wears no French Rope, cause the 1st Infantry was not in the 2nd Division in the World War, but assigned to the division afterwards.

 

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A set of photographs from the Norfolk Public Library showing what I believe is the pre-WWII DI of the 54th Field Artillery Brigade, Headquartered in Norfolk, VA. It doesn't come close to any other 29th Infantry Division unit.

 

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The DI on the overseas cap looks like the DI for the 104th Regiment/Battalion.

 

Here is a scan of the only discernable picture of a DI worn by one of the officers of the 54th FA Brigade from the 1940 VA National Guard book.

 

 

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Ah, and that's what I get for not checking medical and engineers.

 

Interestingly, there's another image with men from the 104th posed around a 75mm gun.

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Our thanks to 28navy for the unit ID.

 

Here's another photo from 1941 of the 104th Med.

 

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Overlooked Military Surplus is selling a 1941 dated Garrison Cap from the unit, the 104th Medical Battalion, redesignated from a regiment I guess sometime in early 1942.

 

 

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And this beauty, a 104th Medical unit pennant up on ETSY

 

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https://www.etsy.com/ie/listing/512976691/1940s-50s-era-original-104th-medical

 

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Here's another image I found while going through a photo album I picked up. Here is an unnamed soldier from the 34th Division bearing the insignia of the 109th Engineers. Circa 1938 - 1941.

 

The distinctive unit insignia was originally approved for the 109th Engineer Regiment on May 23rd, 1927. It was re-designated for the 109th Engineer Battalion on September 2nd, 1943 - US Institute of Heraldry

 

 

 

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A 1930s Soldier of the 192nd Field Artillery Regiment 43rd Division, the 192nd FA Regt was of the Connecticut National Guard. Note one and all the rare wear of the Garrison Cap and this date, anitem not standard in the rest of the Army at this time, worn more in the Air Corps and the Tank Corps.

 

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And one more 43rd Div Soldier, this time in the Infantry, the Vermont 172nd Infantry, seems wearing the Non Stag DI for this unit. Also he too is wearing the Garrison Cap, may have been common within the 43rd Division then.

 

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Interesting!  In my 103rd Infantry photos from that same era, it's all campaign hats.

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5 hours ago, mysteriousoozlefinch said:

Interesting!  In my 103rd Infantry photos from that same era, it's all campaign hats.

Well that was one of the two standard head gear items back then, that and the Service Caps,

 

Light was replaced by Robert Beighlter in October 1940, with Beightler commanding the division the entire war, thee only National Guard general to do so, and he was awarded an honorary CIB for his upfront style of leadership, so he must of Been The Quill.  Maj Gen Light himself however unfortunately died in service into the following  year, February 1941, heart attack???

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26 minutes ago, patches said:

Well that was one of the two standard head gear items back then, that and the Service Caps,

Yes.  Just commenting on the spread of garrison caps in the 43rd Division at the time.

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4 hours ago, mysteriousoozlefinch said:

Yes.  Just commenting on the spread of garrison caps in the 43rd Division at the time.

Yeah, I found that interesting too.

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From the National Guard Militia Museum of New Jersey Facebook page: "April 16, 1930: The New Jersey legislature passed Chapter 149, laws of 1930, authorizing the 'authorization and equipment of a battalion of Negro infantry' at state expense, a response to the refusal of the federal government to establish an African American National Guard unit in the state within the context of an overall segregated military. The resultant unit was the “First Separate Battalion,” which began organizing in Newark and Atlantic City the following year.

Photo: First Separate Battalion officers at Sea Girt, 1940."

I'm not sure what the DUI would be.

 

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Another picture from the National Guard Militia Museum of New Jersey Facebook page. Their branch insignia looks like Infantry but I can't identify the DUI. 

 

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On 5/19/2020 at 10:04 AM, seanmc1114 said:

Another picture from the National Guard Militia Museum of New Jersey Facebook page. Their branch insignia looks like Infantry but I can't identify the DUI. 

 

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Could it be the 372nd Infantry Regiment?  The 1st Separate Battalion was reorganized into the 1st Battalion, 372nd in 1940.

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On 5/19/2020 at 7:08 AM, seanmc1114 said:

119th Observation Squadron assigned to the 44th Infantry Division of the New Jersey National Guard.

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Wow here's one of their DIs up for sale right now, lists it as LION & WNGS Badge LOL, no mention of as a Jersey NG unit, but the cat's out of the bag as there are as of this posting 6 bids on it.

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/283875350302

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3 hours ago, mysteriousoozlefinch said:

 

Could it be the 372nd Infantry Regiment?  The 1st Separate Battalion was reorganized into the 1st Battalion, 372nd in 1940.

That will be the 1st Separate Infantry Battalion (Colored) New Jersey National Guard and it had it's own DI in the 30s, a one with a Tiger Head with a 1 on a scalloped shield with a scroll with motto SANS PEUR (Can't find a image of it), but this DI on their hats is not that, so it does indeed look like one of the types of DIs for the 372nd Infantry, as the 1st Sep Inf Bn (Clr) was consolidated into the reactivated regiment 12 December 1940 and was stationed for awhile at Camden before it was federalized in March 1941.

 

The DI looks like this version no? It's described s a GEMSCO Pin Back (No other images of it are available anymore).

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