Brig Posted August 22, 2015 Share #1 Posted August 22, 2015 This just brought $210 on eBay, and I think it's a fairly early and scarce strike of the H&H cover emblem. Rope is attached differently, more pronounced and less wrapped than the common variant, and there is a gap between the eagle's legs. Not to mention the roller which reminds me of those seen on screwback Iron Crosses, but we all know you can't rely on rollers as indicators or originals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonc Posted August 23, 2015 Share #2 Posted August 23, 2015 Congratulations on the win! I saw the same unusual details on this one, and bid, too...just not enough! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brig Posted August 23, 2015 Author Share #3 Posted August 23, 2015 I didn't win it, I was just watching it. Was just posting it here for reference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stucky151 Posted August 23, 2015 Share #4 Posted August 23, 2015 I watched that one as well, the cutout between the legs does not look original to the manufacturer. I would have bid but looked to be messed with a little to much. Still a nice looking bird that will look good displayed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brig Posted August 23, 2015 Author Share #5 Posted August 23, 2015 I am not certain the rope is attached as it came from the firm, but the holes in the legs seem to have a raised edge all the way around which seems very uniform, I would expect it to look much rougher is hand punched Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stucky151 Posted August 23, 2015 Share #6 Posted August 23, 2015 I think you can see the old solder on the bottom fluke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonc Posted August 23, 2015 Share #7 Posted August 23, 2015 I didn't win it, I was just watching it. Was just posting it here for reference. Sorry, obviously misread your orginal post. Guess I saw "brought" and read "bought." If the cutout between the legs is added, is there an example of unmodified emblems with enough space there to be cut out? My HH doesn't seem to have enough room there to be modified like this without the legs becoming obviously thinner. That said, the auction photos of the front ain't great--there isn't a good view if the area in question. Before the auction ended, I scoured the reference section for a similar example, but didn't come up with anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
normaninvasion Posted August 24, 2015 Share #8 Posted August 24, 2015 Here's a similar dress variation from ref section http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/index.php?/topic/10133-interesting-variation-p1937-hh-officer-ega/ Open legs from the rear almost look like a Gemsco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim B Posted August 24, 2015 Share #9 Posted August 24, 2015 I don't know, I'm skeptical here and really think this one was modified by someone. Maybe it's period but I personally don't think it came out of H&H that way. I would like to see the piece in hand or at least with a straight-on close up pic of the area between the legs. To me, it looks like someone tried to copy the Meyer style of looping. Not the best photos but it appears to have a "5" and ? "1" on the left anchor crossbar. I meant to add that the patina looks heat related but again, the PIC's could be better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim B Posted August 24, 2015 Share #10 Posted August 24, 2015 I don't have the book with Jim Moran's EGA section but I thought he showed the H&H change in device around 1937 going from (left to right below). Is that not correct? I don't see any references showing the style on the right prior to '37. Still learning. Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brig Posted August 24, 2015 Author Share #11 Posted August 24, 2015 The one on the left is not a model 1919-37, it was used throughout WWII and was an Imperial style before the firm was absorbed into H&H. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim B Posted August 24, 2015 Share #12 Posted August 24, 2015 Hi Tim, This attachment is what I was going off of. You can see the dress emblems are dated as such, although he then shows the service examples as variations. Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViewfinderGyrene Posted August 25, 2015 Share #13 Posted August 25, 2015 That is one striking bird there, congratulations Brig! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brig Posted August 26, 2015 Author Share #14 Posted August 26, 2015 Again, I didn't win it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViewfinderGyrene Posted August 26, 2015 Share #15 Posted August 26, 2015 Again, I didn't win it Now realize that, thought "Brought" was "Bought", my mistake.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtMaddoxUSMC Posted August 27, 2015 Share #16 Posted August 27, 2015 Which reference book is that? Does it just cover EGA's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim B Posted August 28, 2015 Share #17 Posted August 28, 2015 Which reference book is that? Does it just cover EGA's? Don't quote me but I believe its the Appendix written by Steve Orgell in Jim Moran's "U.S. Marine Uniforms 1912-1940". I only have some saved pages as e-files. Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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