patches Posted June 21, 2015 #1 Posted June 21, 2015 What's this DI Giovanni Wayne is wearing, Got me stumped, is a phony one or is it for a legit unit??? It also looks like a cloth one right, not metal but cloth.
patches Posted June 21, 2015 Author #2 Posted June 21, 2015 a_wa1121.jpg What's this DI Giovanni Wayne is wearing, Got me stumped, is a phony one or is it for a legit unit??? It also looks like a cloth one right, not metal but cloth. Directly embroidered on the cap like the U.S. officer BOS, a Pre War PI trait, but wait, the rank is supposed to go on that side, pre war-early war officers did wear DIs on the garrison caps, but they're seen on the right side with the rank on the left, interesting huh.
B229 Posted June 21, 2015 #3 Posted June 21, 2015 He also appears to have a direct embroidered U.S. on his collar, so likely he had embroidered BOS on the other side. The cap has officer's braid on it, so wear of the DUI instead of rank may have been something unique to the PI.
patches Posted June 21, 2015 Author #4 Posted June 21, 2015 I gonna look for more images to see if there's a photo that shows the BOS on the other coller, maybe that might help.
patches Posted June 21, 2015 Author #5 Posted June 21, 2015 I gonna look for more images to see if there's a photo that shows the BOS on the other coller, maybe that might help. Ech couldn't fine one to see the other collar. Also checked known units of U.S.A and PS' to see their DIs, nothing resembling this DI on the cap. There are two other PS units I can't fine DIs for, that is if they ever had one, these being the 86th Field Artillery Regiment (PS) and the 88th Field Artillery Regiment (PS).
patches Posted June 22, 2015 Author #6 Posted June 22, 2015 Wow I should have my eyes examined, I got a tip that it's the 57th Infantry (PS), and he was right, I guess it was the slight redesign of it in this cloth form that threw me, note the one Wayne is wearing has a rounded bottom to the shield and plus the oblique view of it.
Linedoggie Posted June 22, 2015 #7 Posted June 22, 2015 Wasn't Waynes roles based on Col. George S. Clarke of the 57th INF(PS)
tredhed2 Posted June 23, 2015 #8 Posted June 23, 2015 Just saw this. It is the 57th inf. Studios made insignia based on real insignia when they could not obtain the real McCoy which could explain the difference in the motto shape. I have seen one direct emb DI in 50+ years of collecting.
VeeVee Posted October 27, 2015 #9 Posted October 27, 2015 I'm impressed that the studio got this one accurately. Here is a photo of 57th Infantry PS officers in 1941, with embroidered DUI's. L-R: Lt. Olson, Col. Edmund Lilly (CO), and Lt. Langdon
VeeVee Posted October 27, 2015 #10 Posted October 27, 2015 I'm impressed that the studio got this one accurately. Here is a photo of 57th Infantry PS officers in 1941, with embroidered DUI's. L-R: Lt. Olson, Col. Edmund Lilly (CO), and Lt. Langdon I can't seem to edit my post anymore... correction. Col. Lilly became CO later during the Bataan siege. Col. Clarke was the CO before the war and early in the campaign.
patches Posted October 27, 2015 Author #11 Posted October 27, 2015 An incredible posting Vee! thanks a bunch, nothing like photographic evidence.
VeeVee Posted October 27, 2015 #12 Posted October 27, 2015 Thanks! Glad I could help. I can't seem to find the version where the enlisted men wore them too. I'll post when I find it.
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